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Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA

From Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA
Date 2014-04-25 17:44 +0200
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On 25/04/14 14:00, Hadron wrote:
> Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> writes:
>
>> On 24/04/14 13:20, Hadron wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 04/23/2014 10:22 AM, Ian Hilliard wrote:
>>>>> It appears that some people have too much time on their hands. I guess
>>>>> that unemployment is a bitch. So, here is a very useful link, which
>>>>> should help them to become useful members of society.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://opensource.com/business/14/4/open-source-job-skills?sc_cid=70160000000cVxvAAE&elq=7dd4d12255494fd8bd1b3ae1c8adf9a8&elqCampaignId=19318
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101
>>>> Thunderbird/24.4.0
>>>>
>>>> It's MCSE.  And I see you're not posting from your Windows job.
>>>>
>>>> Good one, Bighead!
>>>>
>>>> "All the code that my teams produce is tested on a number of different
>>>>    platforms, using a number of different tools, on a number of different
>>>>    processors to detect any errors. The actual end platform is then
>>>>    selected based on a series of tests."
>>>>
>>>> LMAO!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup. The "legend" actually pics the deployment platform AFTER design,
>>> implementation, testing and, probably, user acceptance tests. What an
>>> idiot Hilliard is.
>>>
>>
>> I love how you Microsoft True Believers love to display your ignorance in
>> public. In the world of true software engineering, platform is not a
>> requirement. It is a dependent variable.
>
> Total and utter fucking nonsense for so many reasons I wont go into
> it. It might be so for your dancing penguin applet.
>
> Yes, yes languages like Java and the platform independent UIs like Swing
> etc do make real cross platform a sometimes viable offing however
> generally you are then programming to the lowest common denominator
> BEFORE we even start to talk about user training, infrastructure and
> support.
>
> Someone would have to be asshole of the highest order, and that would be
> you Hilliard, to design, implement and test only on Linux, for example,
> when your target is... not surprisingly, the Windows desktop.
>
> And I can assure you that users do NOT like generic kludgy swing type
> UIs. They want something responsive and native.
>
> You really are a fuckwit.
>
> next thing : I dont believe in MS. I use Debian.
>

It is said that ignorance can be cured with education, but there is no 
cure for stupidity. So, with the hope that you only suffer from the 
former and not the latter, I will try to educate you.

Most of the development that I manage is in C++. There are however a 
large number of very good cross platform libraries to help with the 
development. If the project uses a graphical front end, QT is a very 
good place to start. Have a look at:

http://qt-project.org/

If your developers are experienced in using MFC, then the wxWidgets 
library is a very good place to start. Have a look at:

https://www.wxwidgets.org/

For general programming, the Boost library is an excellent start. Parts 
of the boost library are to be included in the next revision of the C++ 
standard (r11). Have a look at:

http://www.boost.org/

For writing communications code and web servers from scratch the POCO 
library provides a good solid basis. This is at:

http://pocoproject.org

The Apache foundation develop most of their software to be cross 
platform. Have a look at:

http://projects.apache.org

There is a lot of cross platform development around, the problem is that 
the evangelists at Redmond don't want you knowing about it. Have a look at:

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958

--- Quote ---

Our mission is to establish Microsoft's platforms as the de facto 
standards throughout the computer industry.... Working behind the scenes 
to orchestrate "independent" praise of our technology, and damnation of 
the enemy's, is a key evangelism function during the Slog. "Independent" 
analyst's report should be issued, praising your technology and damning 
the competitors (or ignoring them). "Independent" consultants should 
write columns and articles, give conference presentations and moderate 
stacked panels, all on our behalf (and setting them up as experts in the 
new technology, available for just $200/hour). "Independent" academic 
sources should be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). 
"Independent" courseware providers should start profiting from their 
early involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage 
should be sought and turned to our advantage.

--- End Quote ---

Regards,
Ian

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Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-23 16:22 +0200
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 10:51 -0400
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-23 11:04 -0400
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 18:06 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-23 18:14 -0400
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 13:20 +0200
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-24 15:59 +0200
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-24 11:30 -0400
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 17:43 +0200
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-24 12:04 -0400
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-24 12:38 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-24 10:42 -0500
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-24 22:26 -0400
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 14:00 +0200
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-25 14:41 +0200
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 07:55 -0500
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-25 09:25 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 08:40 -0500
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 09:55 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 16:03 +0200
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-04-25 14:21 +0000
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-25 11:41 -0600
            "Hadron" basically admits Windows is "lowest common denominator" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-25 09:24 -0400
              Re: "Hadron" basically admits Windows is "lowest common denominator" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-25 08:54 -0700
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 19:47 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 08:39 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 10:13 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:19 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 10:31 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:34 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 12:31 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-30 17:04 -0700
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-25 17:44 +0200
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 11:01 -0500
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 19:33 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 08:00 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-30 09:12 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:05 -0400
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-25 14:07 -0400
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 14:22 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-25 23:57 +0200
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 16:01 +0200
                The low road versus the high road Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 10:24 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-28 10:54 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 10:08 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 18:12 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 18:26 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:02 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 18:32 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 18:44 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:09 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 18:47 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 12:53 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 19:10 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 13:11 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 13:32 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 13:46 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 19:28 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 07:58 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:11 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 14:12 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 13:04 -0400
                Re: The low road versus the high road GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:19 -0600
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 12:03 -0500
                Re: The low road versus the high road GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 11:17 -0600
                Re: The low road versus the high road Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 19:21 +0200
                Re: The low road versus the high road GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-28 12:06 -0600
                Re: The low road versus the high road chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 11:53 -0500
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 19:23 -0400
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 19:57 -0400
          Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 01:08 -0500
            Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-04-26 10:48 +0100
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-04-26 08:24 -0500
              Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 17:39 -0400
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 14:41 -0700
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:53 +0200
                Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 13:21 -0400
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-23 12:52 -0400
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-23 13:26 -0500
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Benny <bt@example.net> - 2014-04-23 15:56 -0600
      Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2014-04-24 00:10 +0100
        Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-24 06:51 -0500
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-04-23 21:40 +0000
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-23 16:43 -0700
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2014-04-24 01:48 +0100
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-23 21:40 -0400
    Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-24 05:41 -0400
  Re: Help for all the unemployed MSCEs posting in COLA Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-24 13:19 +0200

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