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Re: A dying very old HDD confirmed?

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, alt.comp.periphs.hdd
Subject Re: A dying very old HDD confirmed?
Date 2014-04-24 06:35 +1000
Message-ID <brqmj5Fb0riU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote in message 
news:Hp-dneXPbOXTwMrOnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> On 4/22/2014 9:42 PM PT, Rod Speed typed:
>
>>>> That one isnt getting worse, just the detail has changed, the
>>>> sector has been reallocated, because something wrote to it.
>>
>>> I meant for future. I remember it said 6 and then it was 7.
>>
>> Because the offline uncorrectable was
>> written to and became a reallocated sector.
>>
>> The pending sector turned out to be fine.
>
> Weird. I guess my brief usage of that HDD (VirtualBox's updated Windows XP 
> Pro. SP3 VM) yesterday caused that.
>
>
>> Interesting that the read failures are still there and that
>> blows a great hole in Bob Nichols' claim that the test just
>> stopped when it got to the offline uncorrectable sector.
>
> Hmm, I decided to run both short and long self tests again via gsmartctl 
> to see if the long test passed this time. Here are the latest results:
>
> # smartctl -a /dev/sda
> smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-4-amd64] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 and 7200.7 Plus
> Device Model:     ST380011A
> Serial Number:    4JV5P7LN
> Firmware Version: 8.01
> User Capacity:    80,026,361,856 bytes [80.0 GB]
> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
> Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
> ATA Version is:   6
> ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2
> Local Time is:    Tue Apr 22 23:23:40 2014 PDT
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
>                                         was completed without error.
>                                         Auto Offline Data Collection: 
> Enabled.
> Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine 
> completed
>                                         without error or no self-test has 
> ever
>                                         been run.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection:                (  430) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:                    (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
>                                         Auto Offline data collection 
> on/off support.
>                                         Suspend Offline collection upon 
> new
>                                         command.
>                                         Offline surface scan supported.
>                                         Self-test supported.
>                                         No Conveyance Self-test supported.
>                                         Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
>                                         power-saving mode.
>                                         Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
>                                         General Purpose Logging supported.
> Short self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (   1) minutes.
> Extended self-test routine
> recommended polling time:        (  58) minutes.
>
> SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
> Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED 
> WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
>   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   056   053   006    Pre-fail 
>        -       182708346
>   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   098   098   000    Pre-fail 
>        -       0
>   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age 
>        -       0
>   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail 
>        -       7
>   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   089   060   030    Pre-fail 
>        -       936983316
>   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   019   019   000    Old_age 
>        -       71119
>  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail 
>        -       0
>  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age 
>        -       362
> 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   040   053   000    Old_age   Always - 
> 40
> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   056   053   000    Old_age   Always - 
> 182708346
> 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always - 
> 0
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age 
> ne      -       0
> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always - 
> 0
> 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age 
> ne      -       0
> 202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs  0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always - 
> 0
>
> SMART Error Log Version: 1
> No Errors Logged
>
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining LifeTime(hours) 
> LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      5583 -
> # 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      5583 -
> # 3  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       60%      5502 
> 67691664
> # 4  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       60%      5501 
> 67691664
> # 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      5501 -
> # 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      5501 -
> # 7  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       60%      5501 
> 67691664
> # 8  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      5501 -
> # 9  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       60%      5499 
> 67691664
> #10  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      3165 -
> #11  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     48483 -
> #12  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     43207 -
> #13  Extended offline    Interrupted (host reset)      90%     43201 -
> #14  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     39844 -
> #15  Extended offline    Interrupted (host reset)      20%     38502 -
> #16  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     35555 -
> #17  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     31886 -
> #18  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     22233 -
> #19  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     18951 -
> #20  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     18674 -
> #21  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     15957 -
> 4 of 4 failed self-tests are outdated by newer successful extended offline 
> self-test # 1
>
> SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
>  SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
>     1        0        0  Not_testing
>     2        0        0  Not_testing
>     3        0        0  Not_testing
>     4        0        0  Not_testing
>     5        0        0  Not_testing
> Selective self-test flags (0x0):
>   After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
> If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute 
> delay.
>
>
> That was interesting to see automatic reallocation made the tests work 
> again.

That still isnt clear, as I said elsewhere to Bob.

> I guess I should use the disk again if I see reallocation issues again?

Can't understand that question. 

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