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Re: Twins and the universe

Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Date	2015-11-21 22:57 -0800
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Subject	Re: Twins and the universe
From	Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>

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On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 10:03:43 AM UTC-8, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 11/21/15, 8:26 AM, kenseto wrote:

> > Why does a meter stick recover its length and the clock does not
> > recover its loss seconds????
> 
> Because "length of a meterstick" is a differential measurement but
> "time indicated on a clock" is an INTEGRAL MEASUREMENT. If one
> discusses the clock's tick intervals, then the tick interval
> "recovers" -- because tick interval is a DIFFERENTIAL MEASUREMENT.
> If one discusses length measured by an odometer, it does not
> "recover" -- because an odometer makes an INTEGRAL MEASUREMENT.
> 
> 	If you don't know the difference between differential and
> 	integral measurements, then that is just one more case of
> 	your being unprepared to discuss physics.

Just a while ago, Tom believed in the exact opposite of what it has written down above.  Remember that Koobee Wublee said length contraction is not an accumulative effect but time dilation is.  Well, now Tom has taken Koobee Wublee's teaching.  The consequence of this is that the Twin paradox can be proven a fatal contradiction to SR with this correct assessment of the Lorentz transform as Tom has regurgitated Koobee Wublee's saying above.  Why has Tom failed to recognize the fatal contradiction of SR?  Well, Tom is supposed to think, but the priest of SR does not.  The priest is an opportunist who likes to copy and paste other scholars' works for the proliferation of the religion of Relativity.  <shrug>

> In GR, gravity is NOT a force.

Hmmm...  That is very debatable.  Since curved space along does not manifest gravity, it should be very safe to state that gravity is solely caused by gravitational time dilation.  From the geodesic equations of GR, it should be very clear that gravitational time dilation yields GRAVITATIONAL FORCE.  Yes, even under GR, gravity is still a force.  <shrug>

When you are so completely ignorant of relativity (both SR and GR), and when you cannot remember what Koobee Wublee has told you before, you are DOOMED to repeat nonsense.  Give it up -- physics is CLEARLY too difficult for you, given your clear and obvious mental disabilities: EVERY claim you have ever made about the justification to continue to worship the religion of relativity is really a problem in YOUR PERSONAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF SR AND GR, and you have repeated the same invalid claims over and over and over.  You have been told this literally dozens of times over the past decade or so, and you still cannot remember it. That is a serious mental failure ON YOUR PART.

Note to readers: Tom Roberts is among the most persistent idiots
around here. He has been repeating this nonsense for many years,
without any attempt to learn the subject he tries to write about.
Koobee Wublee replies to this autistic retard him only
occasionally, as a service to readers who may not recognize its
	mistakes.  It has proven itself to be unable and unwilling to
	learn anything.

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Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 11:45 -0600
  Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-17 06:46 -0800
    Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:10 -0600
      Re: Twins and the universe Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-17 12:24 -0600
        Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 12:25 -0600
        Re: Twins and the universe Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:07 -0800
          Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 14:22 -0800
            Re: Twins and the universe Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 00:12 -0800
              Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 00:48 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-18 01:53 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 13:37 -0800
        Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-18 07:48 -0800
          Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 10:45 -0600
            Re: Twins and the universe "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 10:43 -0800
              Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:52 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 14:14 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 17:11 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-11-18 17:30 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-19 03:01 -0500
                Re: Twins and the universe "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 09:02 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-19 14:36 -0500
            Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-19 06:18 -0800
              Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 10:48 -0600
            Re: Twins and the universe Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-19 09:40 -0600
              Re: Twins and the universe Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbertopal.org> - 2015-11-19 17:49 +0000
            Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-20 06:12 -0800
              Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:15 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-21 06:30 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 14:19 -0600
              Re: Twins and the universe kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-20 16:27 -0500
                Re: Twins and the universe Jack Monaco <jacksh@umbertopal.org> - 2015-11-20 21:34 +0000
      Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-18 07:09 -0800
        Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 09:17 -0600
          Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-19 06:15 -0800
            Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-19 06:52 -0800
              Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-20 06:21 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-20 06:30 -0800
            Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 10:46 -0600
              Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-20 06:38 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-20 07:22 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:32 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-21 06:26 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-21 12:03 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 22:57 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 11:46 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-22 07:07 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-22 07:27 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-22 17:07 +0100
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-22 09:05 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-22 18:33 +0100
                Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:37 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-22 21:28 +0100
                Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-22 21:52 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-22 23:58 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 10:38 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-23 21:50 +0100
                Re: Twins and the universe JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:11 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-23 23:28 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-23 06:28 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-23 07:03 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-23 09:20 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 13:21 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-22 23:49 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-23 04:31 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-23 05:27 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-23 05:49 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-23 06:56 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-23 08:02 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-23 17:37 +0100
                Re: Twins and the universe Walter Ilinois <walin@wej98j5q.org> - 2015-11-23 15:23 +0000
                Re: Twins and the universe paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 04:55 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-23 05:43 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 05:49 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-11-23 06:57 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-11-23 07:23 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 11:30 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 10:25 -0800
                Re: Twins and the universe Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-23 11:25 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-23 19:27 +0100
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 14:21 -0600
                Re: Twins and the universe Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 14:21 -0600

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