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| From | deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try |
| Date | 2017-01-24 05:04 +0000 |
| Organization | O.W.L. |
| Message-ID | <aob00q.tgu3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
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RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-01-24, deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Whatever serves your needs best, but taking a look at Fountain, it seems
>> you need to massage the input at least as much as for latex. For instance,
>> capitalization rules, etc.
>
> I guess if you're used to looking "around" the code in LaTeX it would be
> automatic and unnoticeable. But for someone who hasn't used LaTeX it looks
> like a royal mess.
>
That's why you view it processed. If looking at the processed output
helps with the creative process, then keep it up there in front and
reprocess it every few lines you write. That can be automated so that
it's just a click of a button.
For that matter, you could precede helpful text with a '%' so
that latex would ignore it:
\begin{dialogue}[shaking head]{toasty}
%
% TOASTY
% (shaking head)
%
If I were nine years old I might like that.
\end{dialogue}
> As for "massaging" Fountain, it's not that big of a deal because character
> names are capitalized in screenplays (above the dialog) anyhow. That's
> really about the only thing you need to worry about -- otherwise it's just
> mostly flowing text and line breaks. (I should mention, you fully capitalize
> a name when it first appears because that's a screenplay norm.)
>
Sure, but the latex will just do it for you anyway.
>> The "-" in the intslug can be done with:
>> \renewcommand*{\slugspace}{ - }
>> at the beginning of the document.
>>
>> The dvi2tty output line spacing can be controlled with "-v" option.
>> (-v700000 seems to make it about right).
>
> I'm guessing you could also find a way to include "wrylies" (the little
> comment in parenthesis under the name and before dialog) but it becomes
> complicated.
>
That's part of the screenplay class:
either use:
\begin{dialogue}{joe}
\paren{blah blah}
or:
\begin{dialogue}[blah blah]{joe}
>> Two men in white lab coats have just emerged from a van, and
>> Toasty is leading them to the front door.
>>
>> FADE OUT:
>> anon@lowtide:~/movie_scripts/snit$
>
> I figured you could tweak the output but you're not going to get many
> writers to go through this much trouble when they've already got something
> that works perfectly with a whole let less work.
>
Screenplays are really a fairly simple collection of a few basic
things. Automating those things would not be too hard. You could
have it so that you didn't have to type anything but the dialogue
and scene descriptions if you knew all your characters in advance.
For example, a button could insert '\begin{dialogue}{snit} instead of
'\begin{dialogue}{}' for characters who get a lot of screen time.
> Another advantage of using Fountain is that you can set up the the format on
> your parser application (for example A4 vs Letter paper, size of top/bottom
> margins, etc.) and the position of the elements -- sluglines, action,
> character names, wrylies, dialog, transitions, two or one line between
> scenes, etc. -- import correctly. The Fountain markup language is totally
> independent of any particular format -- the element placement is defined by
> the parser. Fountain text files flow in correctly however you've set up your
> page.
>
Sounds like latex. It lets you enter your text pretty much freeform,
and the commands format it for you.
> There has been a lot of thought put into the Fountain format by two
> professional screenwriters (Fountain was originally two, separate projects
> that were merged). This wasn't something just slapped together on the spur
> of the moment -- and it has matured over several years now.
>
Cool.
> Not that I don't understand wanting to use one tool for everything. If I
> could, I would use jstar for just about everything. But, ironically (and
> sadly), since it won't give me "virtual" carriage returns (carrige returns
> on the screen but not in the file) I can't use it for writing in Fountain
> format.
>
I'll look into this Fountain markup more. I know somebody who might
could put it to good use.
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Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 04:02 +0000
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Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-01-23 04:47 +0000
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Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 18:22 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 18:34 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 19:42 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:09 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 20:42 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:45 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 20:17 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:40 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 12:46 -0800
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 22:45 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 15:52 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 16:00 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 03:10 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 04:17 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:04 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:47 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:51 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 08:13 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 16:55 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 20:53 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:20 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:36 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:27 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-25 07:09 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 19:25 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:16 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:31 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:17 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:43 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:30 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 16:33 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:33 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 00:11 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 00:28 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 00:18 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 01:06 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 01:55 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 15:48 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:20 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:30 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-31 09:50 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:12 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:41 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:43 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 01:13 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-23 19:37 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 04:19 +0000
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:24 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-23 22:42 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 00:01 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 06:57 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 06:55 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:22 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 12:28 -0600
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 12:31 -0800
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 17:09 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 17:10 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:23 -0700
Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-01-23 18:22 -0500
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