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Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser

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Am 12.02.2013 14:50, schrieb Peter H. Coffin:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:29:42 +0100, M. Strobel wrote:
> 
>> Am 11.02.2013 20:13, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>
>>> On 2/11/2013 11:23 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 11.02.2013 15:29, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>>
>>>>> Incorrect. Linux is not the "native platform for PHP development".
>>>>> It is ONE platform for PHP development. PHP runs fine on Windows,
>>>>> also. And there are good IDE's on Windows, also.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unix/Linux is the native platform for web development, because the
>>>> first web server was on *nix, and it is still the primary platform
>>>> (http://news.netcraft.com/).
>>>>
>>>> /Str.
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter if the first web server was on *nix, nor that it is
>>> still the primary platform for web development. Linux is *not* the
>>> "native platform for PHP development".
>>>
>>> In fact, I would almost bet there is more PHP *development* done on
>>> Windows, even though *deployment* is done on *nix. Windows is, after
>>> all, the predominant system on the desktop (where most development is
>>> done).
>>
>> yes, for the desktop, but not where most development is done.
>>
>> Maybe I confound it with the question which desktop is best for *nix
>> development, but it just does not make sense develop for *nix on a MS
>> Win desktop. You do not even have a decent shell. MinGW and Cygwin are
>> not THE REAL THING.
> 
> I am not sure how this matters, since 99.9% of development doesn't
> even touch a shell, and wouldn't need the facilities of even those
> (MinGW/Cygwin) anyway. An IDE works with files, it may compile things,
> it probably does some socket stuff connecting to a versioning system
> or source repository, but all the capacities of the programs being
> developed depend on the capacities of the languages that they're built
> in, and all stuff outside that can easily be provided by the IDE itself.
> (EG: Who cares if you've got a posix grep utility around if your IDE
> would be built with a regexp library bound in anyway?)
> 

Then it looks like I am doing something completely wrong.

I have to: write helper scripts, distribute them on my servers into the search path,
version them, pump data out one database piping via ssh to remote servers, automate
remote server setup and management, set up remote versioning repos, testing PHP
snippets because of version differences and fine tuning, test HTML5 features and
javascript in browser versions, write DB consistency checks, ... and yes, brute force
grep through everything for refactoring.

It really helps to work within the same OS family.
/Str.

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using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-10 01:04 -0700
  Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-10 10:03 +0100
  Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-10 10:49 +0100
    getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-10 19:58 -0700
      Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages   to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 12:39 +0100
        Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages   to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-11 09:29 -0500
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages     to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 17:23 +0100
            Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages     to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-11 14:13 -0500
              Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 22:29 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-11 16:40 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-11 22:23 -0700
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-12 07:02 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages         to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-12 09:38 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages         to automate a browser "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-02-12 07:54 -0600
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-12 09:09 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 00:56 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-19 12:12 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-19 08:27 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 17:08 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-02-12 07:50 -0600
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-12 14:28 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-12 15:29 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-17 08:48 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 01:19 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-19 11:43 +0100
      Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Warren Post <warren@copaninvest.com> - 2013-02-11 07:40 -0600
        Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-11 13:20 -0700
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages   to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 22:32 +0100
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Captain Paralytic <paul_lautman@yahoo.com> - 2013-02-12 02:12 -0800
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Warren Post <warren@copaninvest.com> - 2013-02-12 07:42 -0600
            Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-12 14:27 +0000
              Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-12 21:09 -0700
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-13 06:14 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2013-02-13 19:35 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-13 23:40 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-13 23:48 -0700
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Kim André Akerø <kimandre@nospambetadome.com> - 2013-02-14 17:15 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 01:27 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-19 11:44 +0100

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