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Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser

From Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php, alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser
Date 2013-02-12 09:09 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2/12/2013 12:23 AM, Cal Dershowitz wrote:
> On 02/11/2013 02:40 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 2/11/2013 4:29 PM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>> Am 11.02.2013 20:13, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>> On 2/11/2013 11:23 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>>> Am 11.02.2013 15:29, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incorrect.  Linux is not the "native platform for PHP
>>>>>> development".  It is ONE
>>>>>> platform for PHP development.  PHP runs fine on Windows, also. And
>>>>>> there are good
>>>>>> IDE's on Windows, also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unix/Linux is the native platform for web development, because the
>>>>> first web server
>>>>> was on *nix, and it is still the primary platform
>>>>> (http://news.netcraft.com/).
>>>>>
>>>>> /Str.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter if the first web server was on *nix, nor that it is
>>>> still the
>>>> primary platform for web development.  Linux is *not* the "native
>>>> platform for PHP
>>>> development".
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I would almost bet there is more PHP *development* done on
>>>> Windows, even
>>>> though *deployment* is done on *nix.  Windows is, after all, the
>>>> predominant system
>>>> on the desktop (where most development is done).
>>>
>>> yes, for the desktop, but not where most development is done.
>>>
>>> Maybe I confound it with the question which desktop is best for *nix
>>> development, but
>>> it just does not make sense develop for *nix on a MS Win desktop. You
>>> do not even
>>> have a decent shell. MinGW and Cygwin are not THE REAL THING.
>>>
>>> BTW I am not a MS hater, I had a Technet subscription with all MS
>>> operating systems
>>> when I gave courses in MS Networking / Active Directory.
>>> /Str.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Most development isn't done on a desktop?  Horse Hockey!  People don't
>> develop on servers.  They may (and should) have development
>> environments, but like most I've seen, those are done on the same
>> desktop they write the code on.  Some may have a separate "server", but
>> it generally isn't really a "server" - it's another desktop which
>> happens to be running Apache or something similar.
>>
>> It makes perfect sense to develop PHP scripts on a Windows desktop.
>> There are some great IDEs available for Windows, and unless you need
>> some rather esoteric *nix functions, the code is 100% portable.
>>
>> I do my do my development here on Windows (because I need Windows for
>> other things anyway) with Apache running on this system. Eclipse IDE
>> runs great and I can edit the files right in the local web directory.
>> When they are working like I want them to, I upload them to a test Linux
>> server for final checks.  Then over to the live system.
>>
>> I would suggest many people use a similar process (perhaps without the
>> test Linux system - it's really not necessary but I like to be careful).
>>
>>
>
> I'm super happy that you guys are commenting on this thread, but I won't
> have that flame potential not focused on getting my bologna configured.
>
> For the purpose of this thread, OP is developing on ubuntu and is a
> native american.  I'm very invested in the tool-chain of linux now, My
> grandma had to pass herself off as a mexican to marry a chicago cop. Her
> son, my dad, would never use linux, but made extraordinary calculation
> in then-available syntaxes computing a better house, with, for example,
> solar gains, referenced.
>
> I'm gonna try to get php as a two stepper, and if I fail, I'm coming
> right back here.

I think the easiest way for you to install PHP would be to use the 
ubuntu package manager.  I understand ubuntu isn't much different than 
debian (which is what I use), and it will preconfigure a working system 
for you.  It's also easy to change the configuration.

And no, we aren't flaming.  Just having a difference of opinion :).

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using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-10 01:04 -0700
  Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-10 10:03 +0100
  Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-10 10:49 +0100
    getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-10 19:58 -0700
      Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages   to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 12:39 +0100
        Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages   to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-11 09:29 -0500
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages     to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 17:23 +0100
            Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages     to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-11 14:13 -0500
              Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 22:29 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-11 16:40 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-11 22:23 -0700
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-12 07:02 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages         to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-12 09:38 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages         to automate a browser "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-02-12 07:54 -0600
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-12 09:09 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 00:56 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-19 12:12 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-19 08:27 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 17:08 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2013-02-12 07:50 -0600
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages       to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-12 14:28 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-12 15:29 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-17 08:48 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 01:19 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting   languages       to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-19 11:43 +0100
      Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Warren Post <warren@copaninvest.com> - 2013-02-11 07:40 -0600
        Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-11 13:20 -0700
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages   to automate a browser "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-11 22:32 +0100
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Captain Paralytic <paul_lautman@yahoo.com> - 2013-02-12 02:12 -0800
          Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Warren Post <warren@copaninvest.com> - 2013-02-12 07:42 -0600
            Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-12 14:27 +0000
              Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-12 21:09 -0700
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-13 06:14 -0500
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2013-02-13 19:35 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-13 23:40 +0000
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-13 23:48 -0700
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Kim André Akerø <kimandre@nospambetadome.com> - 2013-02-14 17:15 +0100
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Cal Dershowitz <cal@example.invalid> - 2013-02-19 01:27 -0800
                Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2013-02-19 11:44 +0100

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