Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format?

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject	Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format?
Date	2016-12-30 16:09 -0500
Organization	National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2016, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> On 12/30/2016 10:45 AM, Michael Black wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016, David Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> On 24/12/16 18:46, Ryahow wrote:
>>>> Since the device is obviously made for the Windows market,
>>>> would it work, if it doesn't have a linux driver.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> These are "made for Windows" in the same way mice, keyboards, screens,
>>> etc., are "made for Windows".  In other words, they are made to follow
>>> the standards and unless they are designed by complete morons, they work
>>> according to those standards.
>>> 
>> But that can be ambiguous.  I look at things and wonder "are they saying
>> it only works with Windows, or that they only will help if you use
>> Windows".
>> 
>> In a lot of cases, it's simpler to limit who they will help.  When I got
>> an external USR modem in 1996, the package said "compatible with WIndows
>> and Mac" which left a certain doubt, though not much since I knew
>> better. Many an ISP would talk only in terms of Windows support, when
>> there was nothing there that disallowed Linux.
>> 
>> 
>> But the real confusion comes because there was a wave of devices that
>> were "dumb" and used the main CPU for its smarts, so running on some
>> other software was a problem.  ALl those Winmodems and there were even
>> Winprinters, they didn't work with Linux without a lot of fuss, and it
>> was up to some guy to make the effort to figure things out before things
>> would run.
>> 
>> I need a wifi adapter, and it's not obvious from the store's webpage
>> which are useable with Linux.  SOme are, but I have to look further,
>> since the assumption is that "everyone" runs Windows, and no sense
>> complicating things by pointing out which run on Linux.
>>
>>   Michael
>> 
>>> Every USB to SATA (and the one USB to IDE) that I have seen work fine on
>>> Linux, including rather old systems.  USB "mass storage class" is
>>> completely standard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
> 	Well Mr. Black. you seem to have a computer and I
> presume(risky business of course) that you have a browser?
>
> 	well in my Firefox search window I typed the following
> "WiFi Linux compatible adapters"  and I got among other results
> the following:
> 	<https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-usb-wireless-compatibility-adapter-list.html>
>
> 	Or you could enter the model name and number of the
> adapter you are considering in the search window and see
> what comes up.
> 	I know these are radical suggestions requiring the
> use of fingers and a keyboard but I depend on those fingers
> and the keyboard to pick and chose among various items.
>
And I was talking about how things get labelled, rather than how to find a 
wifi adapter that works.

Like I said, the labelling of things is ambigous, it may mean "Windows 
only" or it may mean "but it will run with other operating systems too".

   Michael

Thread

Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? "Ryahow" <dog@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 19:46 +0200
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-12-24 10:33 -0800
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-12-26 01:26 +0100
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-12-27 09:14 +0100
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-12-29 16:13 +0000
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-12-30 13:45 -0500
      Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-12-30 11:02 -0800
        Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-12-30 16:09 -0500
          Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-12-30 22:50 +0000
          Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-12-30 23:02 +0000
          Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2016-12-31 20:55 +0000
      Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-02 10:17 +0100
  Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? lab.eas@gmail.com - 2017-02-21 08:33 -0800
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2017-02-21 09:05 -0800
    GrabIt (was Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format?) ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-02-22 16:31 -0600
    Re: Would adaptor: USB to IDE & SATA read linux-format? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-04-20 01:14 -0300

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