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Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!!

From Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!!
Date 2015-12-13 00:02 -0500
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Osmium wrote:

> "Andrew Swallow" wrrote:
>
>> On 12/12/2015 20:14, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 12, 2015 at 4:31:26 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> T'is a long time since I read "Homage to Catalonia", but I think it is
>>>> far more important than anything Hemingway wrote. Young idealist 
>>>> leftwingers
>>>> would find out that the world is far more complicated than they think.
>>> 
>>>> Yes, Hemingway is a very good writer.
>>> 
>>> In this case, though, while Hemingway _is_ more broadly recognized as a 
>>> great
>>> writer than Orwell, I was focused on something far more narrow. I knew 
>>> that
>>> there was at least one bullfighting scene in at least one of Hemingway's 
>>> books
>>> set in Spain. In the case of "Homage to Catalonia", I was unsure.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I was trying to make sense out of the statement relative to 
>>> 'some
>>> animals being more important than others' which seemed to quite reverse 
>>> the
>>> point of 'Animal Farm' - and given the geographical location of Catalonia, 
>>> I
>>> saw a possible explanation of the joke.
>>> 
>>> John Savard
>>> 
>> 
>> The communists were liars. They promised equality but practised an 
>> aristocratic system. 'Animal Farm' was showing this and the excuses made 
>> when they were caught.
>
> Are you sure aristocrat is the word you want? I thought aristocrats were such 
> because of inherited genes?  Who was Stalin's father? Kruschev's? 
> Gorbachev's?
>
His point, I'd say, is that while Communism claimed to be flat, in reality 
there was the same hierarchy that existed elsewhere.

So the bosses got the food and the luxury and the front row seats, and in 
the Communist system, but leaders got the food and the luxury and the 
front row seats.  The rest had to wait in line hoping there'd be food to 
buy, and had to do without a car and likely jammed into a small apartment, 
and they got to go to the gulag if they complained too much.


> I started _Animal Farm_ but never finished it, I think my expectations were 
> too high. 
>
I've never reread it, so i suspect that says something.

   Michael

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Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-10 04:15 -0600
  Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-10 10:22 +0000
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 13:31 -0500
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    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 13:30 -0500
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        Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:15 +0000
          Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 14:42 -0500
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              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 23:48 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 23:09 -0500
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 14:56 -0600
            Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 06:10 -0800
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-11 16:21 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-11 14:43 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-11 21:56 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-12 04:51 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-12 08:11 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-13 13:50 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-14 00:05 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 21:48 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 21:34 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-12 08:38 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 10:47 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-12 18:41 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 02:33 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-13 23:48 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-14 19:39 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:12 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 12:54 -0500
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                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-14 14:31 +0000
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                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 10:52 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 09:59 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 11:50 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-12 12:14 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 21:37 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 02:37 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-12 22:55 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 00:02 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:24 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-13 13:59 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-14 06:09 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 10:18 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 11:20 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
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                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-12-13 11:35 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:17 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 12:58 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:01 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 21:36 -0800
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-11 14:31 -0500
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:11 +0000
  Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-10 15:49 -0400
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-12-10 17:07 -0600
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-12-10 20:31 -0500
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        Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 06:14 -0800
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          Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:07 -0600
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