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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Andrew Swallow wrote:

> On 11/11/2015 17:57, Walter Bushell wrote:
>> In article <KYWdnWLCj_MbWqbLnZ2dnUU78bednZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>   Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 05/11/2015 14:08, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 05:16:40 -0600
>>>> philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Can't say much good about HP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recall when they were known for their excellent test equipment.
>>>>
>>>> 	For a short while they were known for their equally excellent
>>>> printers, quite a few from that era are still in use. For many years
>>>> afterwards they traded on the reputation they no longer deserved. It is a
>>>> pity, there is a market for excellence at a price but the market for 
>>>> cheap
>>>> crud is so much more profitable.
>>>> 
>>> Profitable until people twig and buy the cheaper rival. Crud is easy to
>>> rival.
>> 
>> But is harder to make profits with commodity products. Price
>> competition can be and usually is brutal, unless you can set
>> up some kind of cartel, including unspoken agreement not to
>> lower prices.
>> 
>
> In the printer market there appears to be an agreement not to use the same 
> shape ink cartridge. This includes the interfaces of the controlling silicon 
> chip.
>
That's hadly unique to laser printers.

I once found a nice dot matrix printer, maybe it was 24pin but it had a 
buffer and serial interface (when I needed it) and I went to the store, 
and there was a wall of ribbons for dot matrix printers, and none of them 
were what I needed.  I ended up buying something that looked about right, 
and transferring the ribbon to the case of the worn out ribbon cartridge.

I thought in the days of cloth ribbons for typewriters, they were either 
all the same, or just a few types.

But other electronic devices do it too.  Lots of cordless phones have a 
battery pack, and they all seem different from others.  It comes as a 
surprise to find some that use regular rechargeable batteries.  I found a 
nice 6mp camera with enough zoom, but the battery is dead and it's not 
standard.  So I can't even try the camera without spending money on it.

   Michael

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        Re: HP split into two Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:08 +0000
          Re: HP split into two Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-05 13:00 -0500
            Re: HP split into two "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-05 18:44 +0000
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          Re: HP split into two Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-11-05 21:16 +0000
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                Re: HP split into two Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-11-06 19:30 +0000
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                Re: HP split into two jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-08 13:46 +0000
          Re: HP split into two Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-05 21:19 +0000
            Re: HP split into two Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 10:16 +0000
              Re: HP split into two Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-06 17:22 +0000
                Re: HP split into two Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 13:01 -0500
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                Re: HP split into two Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-13 12:58 -0500
                Re: HP split into two Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-14 06:20 +0000
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