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Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime.

From bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime.
Date 2013-01-13 17:01 +0000
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owl wrote:

> You see, the problem is that you are ignoring the fact that murders are
> predominantly an inner-city gang-related problem in the US, and much
> more tied to centers of high population density.  I came across a stat
> the other day that observed iirc that US has about 180 cities with a
> population greater than 200,000, while UK has only about 50 at that level.

Huh?
Perhaps you are missing the point that the population of the U.S. is about 
312 Million compared with less than 63 Million in the UK.
Thus, with large cities in the ratio 180:50, the U.K. has more large cities 
(almost twice as many) per Million population.
The U.K. also has a land area of about 1/40th that of the U.S.
We are FAR more urbanised than you are. and have a population density which 
is about 8 times yours.

I think your argument and conclusion are back-to-front!

Also, the site you quote shows:-
Drug offences  
  UK  183,419 per 100,000 people      
  US  560.1 per 100,000 people

There's a very simple explanation for this - that UK figure is the *TOTAL* 
number of drug offences over the entire population of 62 Million!
The comparable number is therefore really about 291/100,000
Even I know that we don't have two drug offences per year for every man, 
woman, child and newborn baby in the UK!

Also, I don't know about the U.S., but even those UK figures are *NOT* 
sentencing figures.
Last year, we had 42,000 sentences for drug posession, but over 160,000 
recorded "warnings" for cannabis posession.  Again, it depends on your 
definition of "offence", and exactly what you are counting.

Do you never think to check, or use a little intelligence with figures?

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Britain -- the land of violent crime. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-13 13:44 +0000
  LOL! You are being lead around by your nose! You are too ridiculous! :) Big Steel <"The One"@One.net> - 2013-01-13 08:49 -0500
    Re: LOL! You are being lead around by your nose! You are too ridiculous! :) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-13 13:54 +0000
  America still the murder capital of the world 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2013-01-13 14:03 +0000
    Re: America still the murder capital of the world owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-13 14:10 +0000
  Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-13 15:11 +0000
    Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-13 15:52 +0000
      Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. Big Steel <"The One"@One.net> - 2013-01-13 10:58 -0500
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-13 16:07 +0000
          Diaper Rash Owl, I am sure your drugs have you confused again. Big Steel <"The One"@One.net> - 2013-01-13 11:10 -0500
          Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 11:12 -0500
            Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. George <hpt@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-13 09:37 -0700
              Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 11:43 -0500
                Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2013-01-13 19:28 +0100
                Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 13:29 -0500
      Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-13 17:01 +0000
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-01-13 12:36 -0500
          Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-13 23:25 +0000
            Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-14 00:51 +0000
            Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-01-14 13:40 -0500
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-14 00:20 +0000
          Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-14 00:31 +0000
      Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. spike1@freenet.co.uk - 2013-01-13 16:42 +0000
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2013-01-13 13:03 -0500
          Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-01-15 08:29 -0600
  Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. Big Steel <"The One"@One.net> - 2013-01-13 10:18 -0500
    Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. "Mr Pounder" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2013-01-13 19:18 +0000
      Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. Big Steel <"The One77"@One77.net> - 2013-01-13 14:26 -0500
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. "Mr Pounder" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2013-01-13 20:13 +0000
          Hi Mr. Pounder!:) No no ho, it's not going to work Mr. Pounder the Chicago City Dump is where a sociopath as the Chicago City dump creature  (you) belongs. :) You can't change your spots on your hairy nasty back. :) Big Steel <"The One77"@One77.net> - 2013-01-13 15:18 -0500
      Mr.  Pounder  your ass we know what part of your body you are pounding, huh? :) Big Steel <"The One77"@One77.net> - 2013-01-13 14:29 -0500
      Yeah you had better pound the Chicago City Dump -- Chicago's City Dump creature.   :) Big Steel <"The One77"@One77.net> - 2013-01-13 14:35 -0500
      Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2013-01-15 08:04 -0600
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. Big Steel <"The OneOOOOwee"@OneOOOOweee.net> - 2013-01-15 09:21 -0500
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-01-15 10:14 -0500
        Re: Britain -- the land of violent crime. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-16 00:55 +0000

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