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Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter ???De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable???"

Subject Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter ???De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable???"
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
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From Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>
Organization Jupiter Mining Corporation
Message-ID <ZEnnF.139104$kr3.87290@fx25.fr7> (permalink)
Date 2019-10-09 17:11 +0100

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On 09/10/2019 16:40, Richard wrote:
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
> 
> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> spake the secret code
> <qnkt7s$jlu$1@dont-email.me> thusly:
> 
>> [...] but that many aspects of our society *conspire* to
>> discourage women from pursuing traditionally male roles (and vice
>> versa), even if the woman is interested in doing so, and is sufficiently
>> competent to compete for such a role, if she hadn't been discouraged
>>from doing so.
> 
> [Emphasis added]
> 
> This constantly comes up about women being "discouraged" to enter into
> STEM fields.  I'm an old fart now and you might have considered that
> "back in the day" women would have been discouraged from STEM fields, but
> even 40 years ago this was not the case and it is certainly not the
> case now.
> 
> The more plausible theory is not that there is some kind of
> "conspiracy" that discourages or prevents women from entering STEM
> positions, but that they simply don't choose those careers.  It isn't
> interesting to women generally and they don't pursue those careers.
> Nothing is keeping them out, nothing is discouraging them, and in fact
> it is MASSIVELY the other way with women constantly being encouraged
> to enter STEM fields and constantly being "empowered" to enter
> programming fields.  .....and yet, they still don't.  I think it's
> time to acknowledge that women, as a general statement, simply don't
> pick these fields because they aren't that interested in them.

So you use the words "as a general statement" to hopefully qualify the 
following statement as not being sexist.  Sorry mate but it doesn't wash.

/Flibble

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"CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2019-09-26 17:37 -0500
  Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" woodbrian77@gmail.com - 2019-09-27 09:24 -0700
  Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-09-27 09:54 -0700
    Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2019-09-27 19:30 +0200
      Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2019-09-28 08:25 +0200
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          Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2019-09-28 01:51 -0700
            Re: "CppCon 2019: Herb Sutter “De-fragmenting C++: Making Exceptions and RTTI More Affordable and Usable”" rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com - 2019-09-28 04:55 -0700
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