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Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint

Subject Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
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From CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
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Date 2024-12-15 08:13 -0500

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Le 2024-12-14 à 11:14, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-14, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-14 à 00:43, rbowman a écrit :
>>> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 22:07:11 -0500, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2024 10:40 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's a lot easier to update Linux than Windows or MacOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe, maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> The massive update to Win11 24H2 was a few mouse clicks.  Absolutely no
>>>> other user input was required.
>>>
>>> There is a GUI but I prefer command line.
>>>
>>>> sudo dnf update --refreah
>>>
>>> gets the job done. I do have to enter my password. It then tells me which
>>> packages will be updated and their sizes and asks me if I want to
>>> continue.
>>>
>>> I did update two machines to 24H2 this week. I got to play several games
>>> of Mahjong solitaire while checking back  'Downloading 3%', Downloading
>>> 13%' and so forth, and then several mare with 'Installing 5%' etc. At the
>>> end I had to restart. More games, 'Updating you computer..' Finally I was
>>> able to log in.  'Hi! Getting things ready for you'
>>>
>>> I have no idea what was updated although I probably could hunt down the
>>> KB. The good news is it doesn't seem to have broken anything. I did a work
>>> machine that I hardly ever use anymore and a laptop which is solely used
>>> for accessing the corporate VPN so it wasn't a real stress test.
>>>
>>> I suppose some day I'll move to Fedora 41 and Ubuntu 24.2 but if it ain't
>>> broken...
>>
>> Like I just wrote in my previous post, the reason Windows did all that
>> is because it essentially installed a new copy of the operating system
>> on your computer and left the previous version on the disk in case there
>> is a problem so you can revert to it. Linux overwrites, Windows installs
>> anew. If I ran the operating system on a hard disk and had a slow
>> Internet connection, I'd absolutely hate Windows for doing that. Since I
>> don't, I appreciate the new installation which preserves all of my
>> programs and settings yet cleans out any crap I might have amassed on
>> the previous install.
> 
> There's no real comparison. The way Windows updates simply sucks. Maybe some
> day Microsoft will figure out how to do it right. But there's reasons why
> Linux can update WITHOUT rebooting and Windows can't. Windows is an inferior
> OS.

Not all Windows updates require a restart; only the big ones do. To be 
fair, many such updates require a restart in Linux too. In the short 
time I used a recent version of Fedora, I noticed that it required me to 
restart quite a few times.

-- 
CrudeSausage

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MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-13 15:40 +0000
  Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-13 21:56 +0000
    Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-14 10:31 -0500
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-15 01:01 +0000
  Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-13 22:07 -0500
    Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-14 05:39 +0000
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:10 -0500
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:09 +0000
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-14 22:18 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-14 22:37 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:53 -0500
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-15 22:28 +0000
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 20:04 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-16 06:42 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 10:38 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-17 22:28 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 07:14 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-15 11:21 -0500
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 15:36 -0500
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-15 21:02 +0000
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-16 07:21 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:10 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-17 22:09 -0600
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-14 10:31 -0500
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-14 22:22 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:58 -0500
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 15:59 +0000
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 19:53 +0000
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:40 -0500
    Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 05:43 +0000
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:15 -0500
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:14 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 19:57 +0000
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 15:06 -0500
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 00:06 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 07:45 +0000
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:48 -0500
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 07:29 +0000
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 08:43 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:30 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:13 -0500
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:33 +0000
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-16 20:18 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:26 +0000
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-17 22:29 +0000
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0500
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:22 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-17 19:37 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:23 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 20:36 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-18 01:54 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 21:22 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 20:34 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-18 03:24 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-18 08:24 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 18:37 -0600
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:12 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-20 01:26 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-20 09:25 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 10:23 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 07:14 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 20:32 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-19 04:43 +0000
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-19 07:58 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 09:04 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-19 11:25 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 11:50 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 12:26 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-19 13:39 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 12:21 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 13:53 -0600
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 17:14 -0500
                Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 08:48 -0500
    Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-14 08:01 -0500
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:21 +0000
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:54 +0000
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:15 -0500
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-15 13:47 +0000
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 10:27 -0500
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-16 05:46 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:37 +0000
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-16 11:04 -0500
              Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 08:22 +0000
      Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 20:01 +0000
        Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 08:43 -0500
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-15 14:05 +0000
          Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 18:23 +0000
            Re: MacOS Sequoia vs. Linux Mint CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-15 14:56 -0500

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