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| Subject | Re: Undeservedly famous |
| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
| References | (2 earlier) <MPG.353edabbf5320a98989aee@news.kolumbus.fi> <1nncw4i.1eiucv11flohtpN%news{@bestley.co.uk> <p7A8qn.1Jr0@kithrup.com> <pb2hip$cfr$2@dont-email.me> <aba06bfb-4a3f-4e02-b54d-b7f1b964a857@googlegroups.com> |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8C6757E051CCtaustingmail@69.16.179.43> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2018-04-16 11:32 -0700 |
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:aba06bfb-4a3f-4e02-b54d-b7f1b964a857@googlegroups.com:
> On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:04:44 AM UTC-6, Dimensional
> Traveler wrote:
>> On 4/16/2018 7:39 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
>> > I count myself among their number; Hal says I know more about
>> > computers than most non-programmers; he also acknowledges
>> > that that's a very low bar.
>
>> The problem is that in the current software development
>> environment, you probably know more than most programmers under
>> age 30. Who have likely never actually _SEEN_ source code.
>
> How can someone, whatever his age, be called a "programmer" if
> he hasn't written source code?
There's source code, and then there's source code. A lot of what
passes for programming these days is actually scripting, using
languages like javascript or PHP. While there's some similarity, it's
not programming, realistically speaking.
There's also an increasing amount of just plugging in modular
components (often with a drag-n-drop GUI) that someone else created.
>
> Also, even incompetent programmers under 30 are probably fairly
> slick at messing around with Windows.
Generally speaking, no, they often aren't. Most companies that hire
"progammers" want college degrees, and college degree programs don't
teach that (or much about real world programming, either).
--
Terry Austin
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-- David Bilek
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