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Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause?

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Subject Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause?
From Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
References (8 earlier) <MPG.325f18ddf214e58a989998@news.kolumbus.fi> <robertaw-1299A8.10134205102016@news.individual.net> <MPG.325f89f6f662b91698999a@news.kolumbus.fi> <227713d3-6bbc-41bc-99a9-9289b0d2f197@googlegroups.com> <MPG.325fba4a49814dd098999b@news.kolumbus.fi>
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Date 2016-10-05 16:45 -0700

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Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:MPG.325fba4a49814dd098999b@news.kolumbus.fi: 

> In article
> <227713d3-6bbc-41bc-99a9-9289b0d2f197@googlegroups.com>, 
> Alien8752@gmail.com says... 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-7, Juho
>> Julkunen wrote: 
>> > In article
>> > <robertaw-1299A8.10134205102016@news.individual.net>, 
>> > robertaw@drizzle.com says... 
>> > > 
>> > > Even 5 tabs will bring Firefox to a stop if those pages are
>> > > too busy with extraneous junk.
>> > 
>> > Wouldn't even one do it, if it is too busy with extraneous
>> > junk? That is, this isn't so much an issue with the number of
>> > tabs, but misbehaving pages, I think. If a page drags the
>> > performance down, I won't keep it open, obviously.
>> 
>>   That's why NoScript and AdBlocker were invented, to keep the
>>   jangly Flash-y ads from showing. Lose those and even the most
>>   ad-heavy pages tame right down. 
>> 
>>   I've found a few pages, like Forbes, that won't display
>>   anything at all until I disable one or the other. I send them
>>   a polite email explaining that I won't be visiting them in
>>   future because of that, and will recommend the same to my
>>   friends. 
>> 
>>   I dunno if it helps, but I don't care.
> 
> I don't use AdBlocker for ideological reasons. I like it when 
> advertises pay for my content.

While I agree with the ideology, the practical reality is that 
virtually all ads are served by ad networks, and all the major ad 
networks regularly serve up malware because their business model 
does not allow for human oversight of what gets sent out.
> 
> That said, any page that wants to run Flash will need to ask me,
> and sites with noise-making ads won't get visited again.
> 
You keep your speakers on? Fool.

-- 
Terry Austin

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Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Madawc Williams <madawcnow@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 00:56 -0700
  Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 13:17 +0000
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 07:21 -0700
      Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 11:37 -0600
        Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-03 11:40 -0600
  Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 11:37 -0700
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-03 13:13 -0700
      Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-03 20:50 +0000
        Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:52 -0700
          Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 17:18 -0700
            Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 00:54 +0000
            Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 05:09 -0400
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 12:45 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-04 12:32 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 00:00 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 21:17 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 02:09 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 22:55 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-04 20:21 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-04 23:39 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 05:23 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 05:29 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 12:44 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 11:06 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 14:52 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-12 11:42 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:44 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-05 08:30 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 15:48 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-05 11:12 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-05 10:14 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-05 15:18 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-05 15:30 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-10-06 08:46 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-06 09:37 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-10-06 16:31 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-10-08 14:15 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 08:36 +0200
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:50 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:50 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-06 03:27 +0000
          Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-04 00:51 +0000
      Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 16:57 -0700
        Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-04 12:40 -0500
          Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 21:27 -0700
            Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 03:04 -0400
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 01:19 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-05 15:04 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:55 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-05 22:58 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 13:08 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-10-05 10:13 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 14:40 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 18:59 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 15:30 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-05 23:07 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:12 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-06 02:33 +0300
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-06 02:03 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-10-06 06:36 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-06 19:36 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-09 22:51 +0100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 16:43 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:44 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 23:23 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-07 14:33 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-06 08:03 -0500
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-05 12:53 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-05 21:49 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-10-05 23:25 -0400
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-06 18:08 +1100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-07 05:41 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 13:01 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-07 20:03 -0500
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-08 03:28 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-07 18:33 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2016-10-28 00:10 +1100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-06 21:13 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-10-07 04:55 +0000
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-07 14:32 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-09 23:06 +0100
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-10-09 21:34 -0700
                Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-10-10 09:15 +0100
              Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-10-05 10:21 -0400
  Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2016-10-03 20:51 -0700
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-10-04 04:19 +0000
    Re: Was Naomi Mitchison the first person in science fiction to say that interfering in non-human cultures would be wrong even if there was good cause? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-10-04 07:40 -0700

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