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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics |
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| From | Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> |
| Subject | And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! |
| Message-ID | <Xn1GC.28644$U32.16694@fx04.am4> (permalink) |
| Organization | virginmedia.com |
| Date | 2018-05-01 18:23 +0100 |
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On 30/04/2018 21:57, Volney wrote: > On 4/30/2018 3:23 PM, Keith Stein wrote: >> On 30/04/2018 19:40, Volney wrote: >>> On 4/30/2018 2:14 PM, Keith Stein wrote: >>>> But think about it Ken, how is a clock in free fall going to know what orbit it's in, in order to know whether to go fast or slow. It ain't eh! >>> It doesn't know. The clock will always run at the normal rate as far as a local comoving observer is concerned. The clock will see itself run at its normal rate. >> And if it really does run at its normal rate then clearly the two clocks will agree when reunited, on the ISS, or indeed anywhere eh! >>> Seeing a clock run slow or fast ONLY happens when there are two observers/clocks in different states. Such as a stationary clock on the ground and a clock in orbit on the ISS. >> Of course clocks which are moving relative to each other appear to run at different rates, but, unless one of the clocks has REALLY changed rate, the clocks must agree when reunited. > Why would they? SR doesn't state that. It's like saying that if two cars drive from New York to Chicago and their odometers are identical at the start of the trip, they must be identical at the end of the trip as well, no matter which route they took. No Mr. Volney, but it is exactly like saying that if two cars drive from New York to Chicago and their CLOCKS are identical at the start of the trip, they must be identical at the end as well, no matter which route they took eh! > If the two twins take different routes through spacetime, their clocks won't agree. There is space, measured by odometers, and there is time, measured by clocks, and there is spacetime, measured by idiots eh! >>>> Also if you look at how Einstein derived the SR time dilation it's obvious that it's bull shit. He assumed the velocity of light, unlike any other velocity, is independent of the velocity of the observer. >>> And all measurements confirm that Einstein was correct in doing this. no measurement ever confirmed that the velocity of light relative to the observer is independent of the velocity of the observer, and none ever will, because actually it's an impossibility. >> No one has ever successfully demonstrated the SR twin effect, ever eh! > Demonstrated daily with particle accelerators. Another impossibility eh! >>>> Me i think clocks would just go on ticking at the same old rate whatever >>> Finally you said something correct. Thank you Mr.Voley, and what i actually said was: "Me i think clocks would just go on ticking at the same old rate whatever bull shit Einstein comes out with eh!" >>> You need to learn SR and GR. >> And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law: >> >> "ANY DISCREPANCY BETWEEN PREVIOUSLY SYNCRONISED CLOCKS, >> WHICH CAN BE FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY THE FINITE SPEED OF THE >> SIGNAL CONNECTING THE CLOCKS, MUST DISAPPEAR WHENEVER THOSE >> CLOCKS ARE REUNITED." > Nobody cares about your self-proclaimed "law". Someday someone will take a couple of clocks to the ISS, or its successor, and prove that indeed Stein's Law is correct, and one week later everyone will wonder how anyone could ever of doubted it eh! keith stein
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And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 18:23 +0100
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-05-01 13:38 -0400
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 15:43 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 16:16 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-03 15:46 +0200
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 10:44 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-03 21:29 +0200
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 13:54 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 15:18 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 17:47 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 15:14 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-05 21:04 +0200
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-05 19:24 +0000
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-06 00:54 +0000
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-06 20:26 +0200
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Rusty Willard <wuut@yaiw.wu> - 2018-05-07 14:39 +0000
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 17:21 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2018-05-06 11:31 +0200
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Otto Wahl <tlow@wtiwor.oc> - 2018-05-06 19:59 +0000
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 12:27 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-05-02 22:09 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 15:44 -0500
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 19:06 +0100
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 14:27 -0500
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-03 21:29 -0400
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-03 23:52 -0500
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 03:41 -0400
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 12:40 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-03 14:15 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 20:23 -0700
Re: And you Mr.Voley need to learn Stein's Law eh! Keith Stein <keithstein111@gmail.com> - 2018-05-05 11:05 +0100
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