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Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?

From	scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Subject	Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work?
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
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Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb:
>> According to Thomas Koenig  <tkoenig@netcologne.de>:
>>>> A brand new Z can emulate the 370/145.  So can my Raspberry Pi if I
>>>> don't expect any performance.
>>>
>>>Surely, a higher performance than the original? ...
>>
>> CPU speed, sure, but the point of a mainframe is that it has high performance
>> peripherals.  A /145 could have up to four channels and could attach several
>> dozen disk drives.
>
>The "Functional characteristics" document from 1972 from Bitsavers 
>gives a  maximum rate per channel of 1.85 MB per second with a
>word buffer installed, plus somewhat lower figures for four channels
>for a total of 5.29 MB/s (which would be optimum).

But it is unlikely that a single drive was dense enough to drive
anywhere near that rate.   Regardless of the channel speed, the
drive is limited by how fast it can get the data off the platter.

Burroughs disk channels had similar transfer rates and supported
multiple independently seeking drives on a single channel (up
to 16) to use the available bandwidth.   The I/O controller on
the B4900 was rated at 8MB/sec across 32 channels.

USB3.0 on a raspberry pi crushes that by orders of magnitude.

>
>> These days one SSD holds more data than two dozen 2314 disks, but I wouldn't
>> think a Pi has particularly high I/O bandwidth.
>
>A single USB2 port can do around 53 MB/s theoretical maximum, a factor
>of approximately 10 vs. the 370/145.  I didn't look up the speed
>of the Pi's SSD.

The fastest NVME SSDs can read three GByte/second and write one Gbyte/second.

The fastest USB SSDs are limited to 600MByte/sec, but few can reach that speed.

As NVME simply requires a PCI express port, which is available on many raspberry
pi boards, the max I/O speed for a pi is the speed of a single PCI Express Gen 3
(1GByte/s) or Gen 4 (2Gbytes/s) lane depending on the pi.  Might even see
Gen 5 in the next couple of years (4Gbytes/sec) in future Pi processors.

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