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Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease

Subject Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11
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From CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Message-ID <UrVAP.87687$bYQ4.3285@fx41.iad> (permalink)
Organization usenet-news.net
Date 2025-03-14 08:39 -0400

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On 3/13/25 17:54, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> The parallels between PC antivirus software and the body’s immune
> system know no bounds. Here’s another one: sometimes the immune system
> mistakenly identifies some of the body’s own cells as the enemy, and
> proceeds to destroy them.
> 
> This has happened with Windows antivirus software before, and here’s
> another case
> <https://www.theverge.com/report/629259/winring0-windows-defender-fan-control-pc-monitoring-alert-quarantine>:
> a privileged kernel-level toolkit used by many monitoring and
> fan-control apps is now being identified by Windows Defender as
> malware, and the apps that install it are being blocked.

Windows now has a proactive defense mechanism where certain things the 
operating system believes to be harmful are blocked. In my case, this 
has resulted in Windows believing that ArmouryCrate, software ASUS 
provides to allow users to control their hardware, is partly harmful. It 
has done the same for G-Helper, a lightweight ArmouryCrate replacement. 
The sad part is that it only seldom considers it to be harmful, 
suggesting that even if something were to actually be malware, Windows 
would only sometimes block the threat.

> Apparently the open-source “WinRing0” toolkit in question has known
> vulnerabilities. But these vulnerabilities have already been patched
> in a newer version. However, the new version cannot be deployed until
> Microsoft issues a digital signature for it. Which it will not do
> without charging some hefty fee. Which the developers in question
> cannot afford to pay.
> 
> Do you think maybe the entire Windows ecosystem is fundamentally
> hostile to open-source software?

It's not. As it is, I can more easily run open-source software on 
Windows than I can in Linux. With the latter, I have to hope that 
there's a Snap available if I'm using Ubuntu or a Flatpak if I'm using 
something else. If I prefer to use the repositories, I have to hope that 
the software is in them. Otherwise, I have to compile from source with 
no guarantee that it will work or integrate into the system as expected. 
In this respect, Windows is much better since I only have to look for an 
executable to load the software, and I can be sure that it will work.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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Death By Auto-Immune Disease Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 21:54 +0000
  Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-13 20:49 -0400
  Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-03-14 10:36 +0000
  Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-14 08:39 -0400
    Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-03-14 09:42 -0400
      Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-14 10:53 -0400
      Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-14 21:26 +0000
    Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-14 21:25 +0000
      Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 00:57 -0400
      Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-15 08:22 -0400
        Re: Death By Auto-Immune Disease Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 21:50 +0000

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