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| Subject | Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. |
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
| Message-ID | <TrXRC.277389$LR2.255071@fx41.iad> (permalink) |
| Date | 2018-06-06 16:26 -0400 |
On 6/6/2018 8:27 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 6/6/2018 7:02 AM, Wally W. wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:04:00 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> >>> On 6/06/2018 1:30 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:55:18 -0400, benj wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/5/2018 9:50 PM, Wally W. wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 20:13:39 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused >>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Science has also proved >>>>>>> the climate change caused this your posting. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's beauty of blaming everything on "climate change" ... it causes >>>>>> everything. >>>>>> >>>>>> A phrase coined in alt.global-warming: >>>>>> "Global-warming explains everything, its opposite and even, if >>>>>> needed, the absence of any remarkable pattern." >>>>>> >>>>> That's why they changed it to "climate change". It doesn't matter what >>>>> weather does. If it doesn't get warmer well there is SOME kind of >>>>> change! And even if there is none, you can still say it's due to >>>>> "climate change"! :-) >>>> >>>> It is ludicrous that they claim "the science is settled" when what >>>> they have is no science at all. It can't be falsified because it >>>> "predicts" everything. >>>> >>> >>> **Well, no, that's not so. The earliest predictions >> >> How many predictions have been made by greenies? >> >> How many have been accurate? >> >> How many "tipping points" have there been so far? >> >>> were made way back >>> in the 19th century. Although not especially accurate, >> >> Of what use is a prediction that isn't accurate? >> >> Oh, wait ... >> >> "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed >> (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an >> endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken >> >>> they were a >>> pointer to what we are witnessing now: >> >> Yep ... error spewed regularly by MSM. >> >>> https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Arrhenius/arrhenius_2.php >>> >>> Then, much later in the 1980s, we have seen the predictions made come >>> perilously close to reality: >>> >>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/04/evaluating-a-1981-temperature-projection/ >> >> ... and then what happened? >> >> Given enough "predictions" one of them it will be possible to spin one >> of them as "accurate." >> >> Ashleigh Brilliant — 'To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, >> and call whatever you hit the target' >> >> http://fearandloathingingtown.blogspot.com/2011/02/monte-carlo-method.html >> What it means, in practical terms, is to throw a lot of random shit at >> the wall and see what sticks. >> >> >>> So, I call 'bullshit' on your claim. >>> >>> We have a great deal of knowledge to draw on. For instance: >>> >>> * We know that CO2 is a significant GHG. > > yet CO2 is less than 1/5 of what Water Vapor does, the dominant GHG. > >>> * We know that, in past epochs, that a rise in CO2 levels is ALWAYS >>> followed by a rise in temperatures. > > wrong, Al Gore's movie shows a graphic where rise in temperature is > followed by CO2 rise. The graphic clearly shows little corrolation. Trevor is a science moron, Sergio. What in hell kind of argument that a rise in CO2 is "followed sometime" by a rise in temperature. That's senile blather. It's not even correlation, of which there is NONE because from 1940 to 1970 CO2 went UP and Temperature went DOWN! The "delay": argument is nonsense as well since the "accepted" theory of radiative forcing is an immediate action. >> As I quoted: "Global-warming explains everything, its opposite ..." >> >> It looks like you're playing the tautology game again: >> In an infinte sine wave, a peak is always followed by a trough, and a >> trough is always followed by a peak. >> >> It is meaningless mumbo-jumbo that makes no useful point in this >> context ... if one actually thinks about what was said, instead of >> being provoked to a mindless, greenie-style reaction. >> >>> * From this, we can deduce that CO2 rise and temperature rise are >>> inextricably linked. > > no, you are guessing, > what is effect of Water Vapor on this? > What about the Dinosoure ages, where plants were huge, > > Al Gores Graph showing Temps rising BEFORE CO2 > http://www.habitat21.co.uk/al-gore-graph.jpg > > https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/the-mathematics-of-carbon-dioxide-part-2/ > > >> >> I seem to disagree with your definition of "deduce." >> >>> So, you can blather on all you like, with your anti-science mumbo-jumbo, >>> but the reality is that you are very, very wrong. >> >> What anti-science? >> >> If I am wrong, where is the quintessential, falsifiable experiment >> that supports the AGW FUD? >> >> Spewing "there is *so* a greenhouse effect" is useless: >> >> https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/04/07/asking-the-wrong-question/ >> To ferociously insist – as politicians and activists do – that >> man-made climate change is real is meaningless. That remark is worthy >> of a child. It demonstrates no sophistication whatsoever. >> >> Are you smarter than a fifth-grader? >> >
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Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 08:22 -0400
Re:Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-06-05 20:13 +0200
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-05 21:50 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-06 20:04 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-06 08:02 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-06 07:27 -0500
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:26 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:10 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-06 13:11 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:07 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 15:33 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 11:35 -0700
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-07 12:30 -0700
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 16:43 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 15:34 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-09 02:15 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 19:28 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-09 11:43 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 06:26 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 17:00 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 08:17 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 18:51 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 10:12 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 20:32 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-10 21:02 -0500
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 15:52 +1000
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-11 09:07 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:13 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:17 -0400
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 20:00 -0500
Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:55 -0400
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