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Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions.

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On 6/6/2018 7:02 AM, Wally W. wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:04:00 +1000, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 6/06/2018 1:30 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:55:18 -0400, benj wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/5/2018 9:50 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 20:13:39 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> benj <benj@nobody.net> Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Science already has proved that the Hawaiian lave eruptions are caused
>>>>>>> by climate change but now it's worse than scientists thought!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Science has also proved
>>>>>> the climate change caused this your posting.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's  beauty of blaming everything on "climate change" ... it causes
>>>>> everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> A phrase coined in alt.global-warming:
>>>>>    "Global-warming explains everything, its opposite and even, if
>>>>> needed, the absence of any remarkable pattern."
>>>>>
>>>> That's why they changed it to "climate change". It doesn't matter what
>>>> weather does. If it doesn't get warmer well there is SOME kind of
>>>> change! And even if there is none, you can still say it's due to
>>>> "climate change"! :-)
>>>
>>> It is ludicrous that they claim "the science is settled" when what
>>> they have is no science at all. It can't be falsified because it
>>> "predicts" everything.
>>>
>>
>> **Well, no, that's not so. The earliest predictions 
> 
> How many predictions have been made by greenies?
> 
> How many have been accurate?
> 
> How many "tipping points" have there been so far?
> 
>> were made way back 
>> in the 19th century. Although not especially accurate, 
> 
> Of what use is a prediction that isn't accurate?
> 
> Oh, wait ...
> 
> "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
> (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an
> endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken
> 
>> they were a 
>> pointer to what we are witnessing now:
> 
> Yep ... error spewed regularly by MSM.
> 
>> https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Arrhenius/arrhenius_2.php
>>
>> Then, much later in the 1980s, we have seen the predictions made come 
>> perilously close to reality:
>>
>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/04/evaluating-a-1981-temperature-projection/
> 
> ... and then what happened?
> 
> Given enough "predictions" one of them it will be possible to spin one
> of them as "accurate."
> 
> Ashleigh Brilliant — 'To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first,
> and call whatever you hit the target'
> 
> http://fearandloathingingtown.blogspot.com/2011/02/monte-carlo-method.html
> What it means, in practical terms, is to throw a lot of random shit at
> the wall and see what sticks.
> 
> 
>> So, I call 'bullshit' on your claim.
>>
>> We have a great deal of knowledge to draw on. For instance:
>>
>> * We know that CO2 is a significant GHG.

yet CO2 is less than 1/5 of what Water Vapor does, the dominant GHG.

>> * We know that, in past epochs, that a rise in CO2 levels is ALWAYS 
>> followed by a rise in temperatures.

wrong, Al Gore's movie shows a graphic where rise in temperature is
followed by CO2 rise. The graphic clearly shows little corrolation.


> As I quoted: "Global-warming explains everything, its opposite ..."
> 
> It looks like you're playing the tautology game again:
> In an infinte sine wave, a peak is always followed by a trough, and a
> trough is always followed by a peak.
> 
> It is meaningless mumbo-jumbo that makes no useful point in this
> context ... if one actually thinks about what was said, instead of
> being provoked to a mindless, greenie-style reaction.
> 
>> * From this, we can deduce that CO2 rise and temperature rise are 
>> inextricably linked.

no, you are guessing,
   what is effect of Water Vapor on this?
   What about the Dinosoure ages, where plants were huge,

Al Gores Graph showing Temps rising BEFORE CO2
http://www.habitat21.co.uk/al-gore-graph.jpg

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/07/the-mathematics-of-carbon-dioxide-part-2/


> 
> I seem to disagree with your definition of "deduce."
> 
>> So, you can blather on all you like, with your anti-science mumbo-jumbo, 
>> but the reality is that you are very, very wrong.
> 
> What anti-science?
> 
> If I am wrong, where is the quintessential, falsifiable experiment
> that supports the AGW FUD?
> 
> Spewing "there is *so* a greenhouse effect" is useless:
> 
> https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/04/07/asking-the-wrong-question/
> To ferociously insist – as politicians and activists do – that
> man-made climate change is real is meaningless. That remark is worthy
> of a child. It demonstrates no sophistication whatsoever.
> 
> Are you smarter than a fifth-grader?
> 

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  Re:Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-06-05 20:13 +0200
    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-05 21:50 -0400
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-06 20:04 +1000
            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-06 08:02 -0400
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                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:26 -0400
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    Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:07 -0400
      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 15:33 +1000
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      Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 15:34 +1000
        Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-09 02:15 -0400
          Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-09 19:28 +1000
            Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-09 11:43 -0400
              Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 06:26 +1000
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                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 08:17 +1000
                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2018-06-10 18:51 -0400
                Re: Climate Change Causes More Volcano Eruptions. Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2018-06-11 10:12 +1000
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