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| Subject | Re: Best C compiler |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
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| From | Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> |
| Message-ID | <SEQ8G.3175$3U5.2985@fx01.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2020-03-07 12:15 -0500 |
On 3/6/20 4:56 AM, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> On Thursday, 5 March 2020 17:48:08 UTC, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>> Depends on the code. Debuggers are useful if the error occurs on the
>>> first few iterations of the code.
>>
>> Do you know conditional breakpoints ?
>>
>>> However if it takes many iterations before the bug becomes evident,
>>> a printf trace of the program's state can be more useful.
>>
>> Yeeees, a printf every iteration for a lot iterations.
>> Makes _perfectly_ sense to me.
>> printf()-debugging is a shit.
>>
> Say that we have the line
> y = 1/x;
>
> x goes to zero and it crashes. Now we could break on x == 0, but that won't tell us what happened to x before it went to zero. Or we could break on fabs(x) < epsilon, but what do we use for epsilon, how do we set up the condition in the debugger, and will it give us false positives?
>
> if we put in the line
> printf("x = %e\n", x);
>
> then we get a list of all values of x before x goes to zero. There might be
> ten thousand of them. But likely things start to go wrong in the last hundred
> or so. We might see x gradually decrease in absolute value, wildly oscillate, or get into a pattern of alternating positive and negative values which steadily get lower. Or it might not be that all values until the last one look fine,
> but we have a few isolated very low values further up in the trace.
> The printf() method allows us to quickly monitor the state of the variable.
>
Another alternative, that doesn't generate as long of an output is to
instrument the code to save the values of x in an array being used as a
circular buffer. Then when x takes on the bad value, you can look at
just the recent history of the changes.
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