Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups	alt.os.linux.ubuntu, comp.sys.laptops
Subject	Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help
Date	2012-02-06 23:43 -0500
Organization	National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, BillW50 wrote:

> On 2/6/2012 5:18 PM, Dan C wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:00:10 -0600, BillW50 wrote:
>> 
>>> Running Windows XP on a EeePC 701/2 with an external 1440x900 monitor,
>>> it plays full screen videos and doesn't miss a beat. Trying Linux with
>>> the same exact hardware and it plays the same videos one fricken frame
>>> per 5 seconds. How wonderful! No video, just a slide show.
>> 
>> <SNIP>
>> 
>> Awwww, look!  Yet *another* drooling fucking ignorant stooge of a Win-
>> droid pops in to spew some drivel.
>> 
>> Or is it just another nymshift of an existing troll-boi?
>> 
>> Either way, bugger off, Win-droid troll.
>
> Ah... a true Linux zealot! Linux can never do anything wrong and if anybody 
> believes that it can, it is always the users fault. How wonderful your life 
> must be. Stay away from reality and life is just wonderful!
>
> Unfortunately some of us can't live with our head in the sand and must deal 
> with reality. And dealing with reality, we must also deal with the problems 
> that goes along with it.
>
You seem to forget that 30 years ago, Unix appeared in the "hobby" 
computer magazines and was seen as The Thing to Get.

It had things that CP/M and MSDOS didn't have, such as multitasking and 
pipes and it was fairly easy to adapt to new hardware, and of course to 
scale up.  It was already ten years old about the point where it first 
appeared in the magazines, making it more stable than what was appearing.

It was also a time of lots of operating systems, not just CP/M and slowly 
MSDOS, but still lots of odd operating systems that were inherent to a 
given small computer.  CP/M only united things if you were running a 
computer with an 8080, it was way too difficult to port.  Relatively few 
applications fitted more than one operating system, so of course you had 
to match the application with the operating system.

Unix was portable, the problem was it expensive, as was the hardware to 
drive it.  But right from the start, there were "unix-like" operating 
systems.

Microware OS-9 for the 6809 arrived about 1981, multi-user, 
multitasking, included pipes and much of the general concept of Unix, but 
not compatible.

I got my third computer, a Radio Shack Color Computer, in 1984, because it 
would run OS-9, and that was within my reach.  27 years ago I had some of 
what users of Unix had.

There were endless Unix clones, some close or identical in operation, some 
only vaguely like it.  Unix was coming to the commercial segment, so there 
were regular reviews in Byte about the latest Unix system, puny systems in 
retrospect but large at the time.  There were lots of books about Unix by 
the end of the eighties, a good portion of them were about using Unix, 
since there were far more users than administrators.

I remember when "MSDOS' was improved, so it had more things that unix had, 
like pipes, and subdorectories, but still no multi-tasking, though you 
could add things that would allow some of it in limited form.

Then 1986, Richard Stallman has his GNU Manifesto published in Dr. Dobbs. 
Wow, maybe we will get Unix.  But it took its time.  Then Dr. Dobbs runs 
an article about a complete sort of unix, I think it wsa 386BSD or 
something like that.  Of course, the hardware was still expensive, but 
less so than circa 1981.

Minix comes along, buy the book and you get the disk and while the package 
is about $80, you get a "unix-like" operating system.  It was available 
for the "IBM PC" but also the Atari ST.

About that time, I got a C compiler for the Atari ST. It didn't have 
anything to do with Unix, but the compiler clearly was derived from the 
Unix compiler, and the package did include a shell that was very much 
intended to be like a Unix shell.  It even included a subset of 
Emacs. That's when I started buying Unix books,  it was getting close.

Then suddenly there's talk of Linux, succeeding where GNU had stalled, 
though of course making use of the work done by the GNU foundation since
they had worked on making "free" versions of the utilities and such that 
did come with Unix. So Linus supplied the kernel, and GNU supplied the 
rest, and suddenly we had a free Unix that would run on reasonably priced 
equipment.  No, it took time to become more compatible, but it was there.

Unix was used early for typesetting, and so a lot of those tools migrated 
to other operating systems early.

I remember BBSs and the kludges they had to do to address more than a 
small amount of RAM, ot deal with Usenet, to have sort of multitasking. 
For all that period of BBSs, there was Unix out there doing the same thing 
without kludges.  Indeed, Fidonet may have been trying to emulate Usenet.

In 1996 I got full internet access, a "mainframe" running Linux.  It was a 
limited subset of Unix/Linux that I could use, yet those same tools, lynx 
the text only browser and Pine the mail/newsreader, I still use to this 
day, over fifteen years later.  When I finally did run Linux for the first 
time in mid-2001, I was less interested in spending money on new 
computers, so it took time for something decent to become cheap, I 
suddenly had what was "mainframe" 5 years before.

I got my first computer in 1979, a decade after I decided I wanted my own 
computer (I have no idea what I was thinking, since of course the concept 
didn't exist in 1969).  I waited 20 years from the first time I read about 
Unix till the time I actually ran it (well, Linux which derives from 
Unix).  In all that time I never ran MSDOS or Windows, except to sample 
them.  You could do that when you started early enough, you saw an initial 
field of all kinds of different computers competing and running different 
software, so the idea that "everyone must run Windows" is a foreign 
concept.

When I was given this hand me down computer in 2003, I had Windows off it 
within 2 days, deciding it didn't matter and I don't care, and I don't 
want it.  When I got a netbook in 2008, it was right when the ones with 
hard drives and Windows were coming in, I deliberately chose to get one of 
the older ones that came with Linux.

   Michael

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scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 12:58 -0800
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2012-01-31 21:18 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 13:30 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 19:09 -0800
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 14:44 -0800
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-31 15:33 -0600
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-31 16:07 -0600
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2012-02-01 14:45 +0100
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-31 23:55 +0100
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 04:17 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-01 17:08 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 18:33 -0800
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 12:07 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 11:29 +0000
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-06 04:12 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2012-02-06 12:46 +0000
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 11:09 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 12:42 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 12:00 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-06 12:51 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 15:57 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 17:34 -0500
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 17:20 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 21:03 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 15:40 -0800
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Harry Vaderchi" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-23 09:08 +0000
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:38 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:34 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 19:10 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 18:26 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.net.invlad> - 2012-02-08 01:30 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 16:59 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 19:49 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:38 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help FatBytestard <PhatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> - 2012-02-07 18:44 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 21:37 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 23:01 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 22:24 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-08 00:10 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-08 00:20 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:44 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:35 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 20:42 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:57 +0100
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-06 13:01 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-06 23:18 +0000
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 17:39 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-07 00:02 +0000
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 19:44 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-07 02:31 +0000
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-06 23:46 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:10 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:05 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-06 23:48 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:11 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-07 18:35 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 22:25 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-07 21:45 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-08 00:21 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:10 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 09:26 +0100
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:46 +0100
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-06 23:43 -0500
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 09:40 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:11 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:34 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 06:15 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> - 2012-02-12 10:17 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 07:34 -0800
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-08 17:18 +0000
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2012-02-01 14:45 -0500
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 12:25 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:02 +0100
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-01 22:06 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 17:57 -0500
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 15:12 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-01 18:55 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 17:08 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 12:08 +0000
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-06 04:15 -0800
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-06 13:35 -0800

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