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Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor

From scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Subject Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
References (6 earlier) <uihpgl$227kv$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <nuT3N.20309$wvv7.18517@fx14.iad> <uipl56$3sugf$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <20231111205536.387@kylheku.com> <uiq7o0$1thb$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org>
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Date 2023-11-12 17:53 +0000

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Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> writes:
>Am 12.11.2023 um 06:02 schrieb Kaz Kylheku:
>
>> I don't suspect that is part of Mesa semantics. (It's definitely part of
>> Hoare semantics.) Do you have a reference?
>
>Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_(synchronization):
>"With nonblocking condition variables (also called "Mesa style"
>condition variables or "signal and continue" condition variables),
>signaling does not cause the signaling thread to lose occupancy
>of the monitor. Instead the signaled threads are moved to the e
>queue."
>
>> Since under Mesa semantics, threads re-acquire the mutex with fewer
>> guarantees and must re-test the desired condition, Mesa semantics
>> supports the more efficient protocol of signaling outside of the
>> monitor.
>
>This is a theoretical advantage. In fact, a combination of mutex
>and condition variable, like a monitor implicitly is, is intended
>for procuder-consumer patterns. And at this point it never happens
>that you want to signal something but don't modify a common state.
>
>
>> If you're using POSIX mutexes and conditions, you should call
>> pthread_cond_signal and pthread_cond_broadcast outside of the
>> mutex, whenever possible.
>
>That actually never happens because you have to lock the mutex
>anyway.

No, you don't.   If you updated the predicate that the condition
variable is monitoring while holding the mutex, you should release
the mutex before signaling or broadcasting the condition variable
to avoid unnecessary context switches.

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                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-18 19:24 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-18 20:29 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-18 21:46 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-18 20:18 -0500
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                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 08:59 +0100
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                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 10:25 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-24 15:59 +0000
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                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-25 00:08 +0000
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                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-25 18:09 +0000
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                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-17 18:37 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-18 00:45 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-18 02:30 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 11:11 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 07:35 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-13 15:05 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 16:36 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 17:24 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-12 12:48 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-12 19:29 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-12 16:44 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 14:16 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-13 04:48 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 14:32 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-13 21:27 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-14 15:12 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-14 20:35 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-13 21:58 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-14 03:27 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 21:28 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 21:29 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-14 20:47 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 12:18 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 12:20 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-15 21:26 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-16 00:25 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-14 20:42 -0500
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-28 15:32 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-12 19:17 -0500
          Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-09 05:17 +0000
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:18 -0800
              Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:20 -0800
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 06:19 +0100
              Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:20 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-08 23:51 +0000
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:10 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 15:32 -0800
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 05:35 +0100
          Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:17 -0800
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 06:22 +0100
              Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:27 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 06:29 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:31 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 06:34 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:36 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 06:40 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:42 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 07:32 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 22:54 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 23:01 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 23:03 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:30 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 21:32 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 14:59 -0800
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-08 19:49 +0000
  Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 18:16 +0100
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 13:49 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 05:37 +0100
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 20:40 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 20:39 -0800
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 13:41 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 05:36 +0100
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-08 20:41 -0800
  Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-08 18:16 +0000
  Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 10:07 +0100
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 01:11 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 10:17 +0100
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 01:22 -0800
          Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 01:23 -0800
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2023-11-10 13:56 +0000
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-10 15:08 +0100
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-10 15:15 +0100
          Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2023-11-11 02:59 +0000
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-10 12:44 -0800
          Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 04:53 +0100
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-10 20:09 -0800
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2023-11-11 04:25 +0000
              Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 07:07 +0100
  Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 11:41 +0100
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 16:39 +0100
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 11:42 -0800
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2023-11-11 17:49 -0500
        Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-12 05:40 +0100
          Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-12 12:46 -0800
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 23:13 -0800
            Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 10:04 +0100
              Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 01:21 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 11:00 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 02:08 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 11:23 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 12:27 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-14 12:29 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 05:54 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 12:21 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 04:00 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-15 19:10 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-16 03:21 +0000
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 06:36 +0100
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-16 13:06 -0800
                Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-17 06:57 +0100
    Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 11:41 -0800
      Re: A Java- / .NET-like monitor "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-13 22:46 -0800

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