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Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust

From jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust
Date 2016-06-16 12:30 +0000
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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> There are about 20 years worth of issues of C&A on bitsavers.
> Interesting reading, including the ads and photos.
>
> Toward the end of the run, the magazine changed its name
> to Computers & People, and began to take a kind of anti-
> establishment thrust.  At the same time, advertising
> dried up.  (I don't know if the two are related, nor which
> happened first.)
>
> One thing was a long running series on the Vietnam War.
> It basically was a rambling series of accusations about
> the lies.  (I think the lies were the worst and most
> critical around 1962-1963; while by 1970 everyone
> in the country knew the war was a big mess*.)
>
> Another thing that was actually wrong were a series of
> diatribes against the Bell System.  The authors falsely
> accused the Bell System of offering no progress in business
> systems as well as high rates because of their monopoly status.
> The reality was completely different.  (Technological
> improvements allowed long distance rates to be lowered, and
> local rates went up much lower than the rate of inflation.
> Also, Bell Labs continually developed new products for business.)
>
> The authors ignored the fact that Bell was tightly regulated--
> their profits and lines of business were strictly proscribed
> by the FCC and state regulators**.
>
> They also claimed Bell's ownership of Western Electric resulted
> in higher pricing due to sole sourcing.  This was false.  W/E
> had been repeatedly and extensively audited over the years by
> regulators and the prices charged for equipment were fair.  In
> addition, W/E was not a 'sole source' maker, but rather a buyer,
> and it acted as a volume purchaser and tester, buying a variety
> of products in the open market for Bell System use.
>
>
> The magazine also ran diatribes against IBM, falsely claiming
> it was a monopoly and exploiting its monopoly power to the
> detriment of the DP industry.  It must be noted that the Feds
> sued IBM but lost their case.  In the early 1960s, well before
> these articles, IBM revised a lot of its policies, unbundling
> much of its products.  This unbundling allowed a huge growth
> in competitors and support companies.
>
> During that time frame, IBM lowered the price of some of its
> peripherals in response to competitive pressures.  Unfortunately,
> the competing companies were unable to meet IBM's new price and
> got into trouble.  They sued under anti-trust.  The judge
> threw it out, noting that IBM's price reduction was totally
> fair and legal, plus, was exactly was competition was supposed
> to do.  The C&A articles complained about IBM's action.
>
> The C&A articles also defined the computer market in very
> narrow terms, ignoring the explosive growth in mini-computers
> in which IBM was only a small player.
>
>
> * A good to read on the Vietnam War is "The Best & The Brightest"
> by Haberstram.  I used to think General Maxwell Taylor was a big
> hero, but apparently not.  In the early 1960s, when the US was
> getting more and more involved, the military flat out lied
> claiming things were going wonderfully when in fact things were
> going horribly.  Had Kennedy known the real truth and if he had
> the guts to ask the tough questions, the US involvement would've
> been cut short run then.
>
>
> ** The anti Bell folks won.  Today, Verizon is not regulated
> and a "competitive" company.  This means they don't bother
> repairing landline phones unless there's a profit in it for
> them.  If a sick elderly person is without phone service
> because their landline is bad (and I know some in that
> position), so it goes, it's not Verizon's problem.

Part of the problem is that the infrastructure got wiped out
by the hurricane Sandy.  Verizon doesn't want to restore
the old copper infrastructure but regs and other polictics
are making a mess of any attempt to restore comm service.

/BAH

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"Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-15 13:22 -0700
  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-16 12:30 +0000
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:01 -0700
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 04:21 -0400
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-06-18 18:56 +0000
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-19 13:31 +0000
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-19 16:59 +0100
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-06-22 16:41 -0500
  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 07:58 -0700
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 08:13 -0700
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-16 10:38 -0700
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-16 10:44 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-16 10:46 -0700
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:27 -0700
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-06-16 19:08 -0700
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-17 12:51 +0000
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-17 14:11 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-17 21:22 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 16:47 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-06-17 23:02 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-18 09:12 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-18 11:49 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-18 15:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-01 19:09 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-18 17:32 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 19:07 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 16:33 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-06-17 17:19 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-17 19:54 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:48 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:44 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-18 22:40 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 05:05 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-20 13:12 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-01 19:20 -0700
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-17 02:30 +0000
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-16 22:26 +0100
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-20 13:20 -0700
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-20 19:47 -0400
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-21 09:02 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:14 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-21 11:42 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-21 10:24 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-21 12:08 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-21 17:13 +0000
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 07:05 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-21 13:16 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-21 12:44 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-21 14:01 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:20 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-22 06:35 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-22 05:43 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 18:44 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-22 08:52 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:49 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-22 13:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:11 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:22 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-22 21:03 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-23 14:17 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-22 23:47 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 09:11 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 05:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-23 07:51 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 20:52 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-24 12:30 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 09:03 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 05:23 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-25 19:59 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 12:10 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:08 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 20:47 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-24 12:33 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-24 17:14 +0000
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                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-24 21:59 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 08:49 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 12:10 +0200
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                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-25 07:31 -0400
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                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 18:47 +0000
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                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-28 10:43 +0100
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                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:54 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:50 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-06 10:59 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 07:54 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 16:57 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-06 10:20 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 12:37 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-07-05 13:51 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:12 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 16:35 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-05 11:21 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:33 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 16:38 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-05 17:39 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-05 17:26 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 20:46 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 09:00 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-05 13:32 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:29 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-04 12:42 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 22:25 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-07-05 01:07 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 12:54 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 08:47 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 16:40 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 18:24 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:50 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:16 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 17:16 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 23:21 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:52 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:44 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 07:54 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 16:51 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-07-06 00:18 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-07-06 08:46 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:42 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 12:51 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-05 13:32 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 12:49 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-06 13:11 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:17 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-06 15:12 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-07 01:59 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-07 12:52 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 03:51 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-08 12:18 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-08 09:33 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-08 15:16 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-08 10:56 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-07-08 14:20 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 19:57 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-09 13:05 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-10 17:32 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 19:30 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 18:43 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-07-12 18:56 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-09 13:04 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-09 13:00 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-09 18:33 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 22:08 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:38 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2016-07-11 14:09 +0800
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-08 16:25 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-09 17:17 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:41 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-09 18:49 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-09 21:38 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-10 09:39 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 09:55 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-10 07:04 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-10 17:05 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-11 04:02 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-11 07:55 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:39 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 13:43 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-09 20:02 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-11 21:19 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-12 07:17 +0100
                Insulation - was Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-12 09:42 +0100
                Re: Insulation - was Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-12 16:01 +0100
                Re: Insulation - was Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-12 09:41 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-07-09 20:42 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-10 09:38 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-11 16:39 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-11 16:52 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-11 12:50 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 19:51 -0400
                Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2016-07-08 22:05 -0700
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 07:00 -0400
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 11:12 -0400
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:35 -0500
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-09 18:08 -0700
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 22:09 -0400
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-09 21:05 -0700
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 +0000
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-07-12 18:39 +0000
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-13 12:48 +0000
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 +0000
                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-10 07:01 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 10:51 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-02 16:50 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 16:08 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-02 22:27 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:22 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 16:18 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-03 13:33 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:32 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:20 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 11:39 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 12:24 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 12:51 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:28 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 14:57 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 11:36 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 17:12 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-05 17:03 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-06 11:04 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:13 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 20:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 17:18 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-07 07:57 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-07-10 11:33 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-10 17:23 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-07 02:15 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 11:30 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-05 18:42 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 19:42 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-06 02:21 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 21:29 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:31 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-06 07:50 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-06 10:24 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 12:27 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:05 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-07-02 19:34 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-02 20:28 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-02 22:20 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 13:28 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 16:08 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:16 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-05 11:37 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 15:34 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:36 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 09:55 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 20:43 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-02 19:35 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-03 07:11 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-03 11:39 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-03 18:03 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-03 08:38 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 09:46 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-03 08:13 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-03 11:35 -0400
                Trump - was: Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-04 21:45 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-03 15:20 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-30 20:23 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:24 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-01 20:50 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-30 13:14 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-30 07:04 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:16 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-30 22:45 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 06:46 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-06-30 15:34 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-30 13:16 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-30 17:40 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 20:16 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 11:30 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:05 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 20:16 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:22 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 16:07 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-29 10:06 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:29 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:26 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-29 07:27 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:30 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-29 12:52 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 14:05 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 15:07 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 16:08 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 17:00 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:51 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-29 18:41 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 19:37 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-30 12:53 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:18 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-06-30 14:05 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-01 07:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-07-02 06:54 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-29 15:37 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:51 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-29 17:13 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-29 12:13 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-01 08:38 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 11:28 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 12:43 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-06-25 11:59 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 16:10 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 14:12 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 08:52 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 16:11 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 12:36 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 14:06 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-25 01:17 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-24 21:09 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-25 07:31 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-06-25 12:11 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-25 17:39 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-26 04:05 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-24 09:57 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 22:50 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 11:59 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 10:01 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:09 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-23 09:48 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 10:01 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 10:58 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 08:12 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:41 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-22 12:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:43 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:35 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 18:08 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-21 19:56 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:04 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:39 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 08:58 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 17:34 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 13:49 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-22 21:57 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 04:29 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-23 11:26 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-22 00:13 -0500
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:08 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 08:52 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:11 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-22 12:47 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:47 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-22 19:20 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:08 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:13 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:37 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:08 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-22 09:19 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:26 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-22 16:23 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-22 22:02 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:35 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-21 01:06 -0500
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:12 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-21 11:32 +0200
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 11:00 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-21 17:40 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 16:18 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 16:29 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 20:13 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 21:14 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-21 20:49 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-21 12:49 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 16:27 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:37 -0700
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 06:34 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 20:12 +0000
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-21 10:15 +0000
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 06:44 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-21 15:41 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 08:07 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-21 17:35 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-21 12:46 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 16:27 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-06-22 22:35 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 21:11 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 09:04 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:39 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:07 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 15:57 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:34 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:14 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-01 20:06 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:25 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 19:46 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 18:47 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 09:02 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:37 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-22 16:35 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:05 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:47 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-22 21:21 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 20:55 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:30 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 06:01 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:25 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:15 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:07 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-23 14:15 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 10:29 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 11:33 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-23 15:57 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-23 13:50 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 15:55 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-23 20:33 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-24 06:46 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-24 12:03 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-24 11:54 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-24 16:08 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 14:39 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-24 17:48 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-24 07:18 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-24 12:21 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-24 10:10 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 09:32 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-24 11:03 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 22:51 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-25 13:10 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-24 16:30 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-24 09:51 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 22:47 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-24 22:02 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 10:18 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-23 18:50 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-24 12:39 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-24 15:41 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-24 19:49 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-25 08:58 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-24 11:40 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 17:37 -0400

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