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Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!!

From jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!!
Date 2015-12-11 13:35 +0000
Organization "Have EDDT, will travel"
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Rich Alderson wrote:
> Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> writes:
>
>> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
>
>>> "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>
>>>> Happy Dec-10 Day!!!   Seems like this comes around *every* year!!! ;-)
>
>>> But you missed (OT here) Takeda Shingen's birthday on Dec. 1.  Did DEC
>>> make a "DEC 1"?
>
> To answer Mr. Spencer's question more accurately, no.
>
>> Technically, none of their machines were named the "DEC-anything"
>
>> There were commercially sold PDP 1,4,5,6,8,9,10,11, and 15.
>
> Technically, you have no idea what you're talking about.  To begin with, you
> left out the PDP-7, the PDP-12, the PDP-14, and the PDP-16.  We won't even
get
> into the number of variants of the PDP-8, PDP-11, and PDP-15 families
existed,
> but there were a 7A and a 9/L as well.
>
> When DEC introduced the 2nd generation PDP-10, they already had 16 designs
> designated "PDP-n", with 14 actually manufactured.  DEC's marketing
department
> decided that Yet Another PDP-n was too many, and christened the KI-10 based
> computer the "system-10".
>
> Whoops.  Singer--yes, the sewing machine company--was already selling an
> industrial control computer which they called the system-10.  In 1971,
people
> didn't fight over trademarks the way they do now; instead, DEC negotiated
with
> Singer to use a variant of the name, and christened the KI-10 machine the
>
>                  DECsystem-10

I was the one who edited all the docs for this product.  The lawyers kept
changing their minds about how to spell the word.  One week, I'd get
a request to change all the occurences of DECsystem-10 to DECSYSTEM-10.
The next week I'd get another request to change DECSYSTEM-10 to
DECsystem-10.  IIRC, the docs went through 4, maybe 5, switches until
I put my foot down and stated that I would not be doing any more edits
until they made up their mind.  Since I hated the look of DECSYSTEM-10,
I strongly suggested DECsystem-10.

>
> This was immediately shortened by customers (and no doubt by DEC employees
when
> not being fastidious) to "DEC-10".
>
> It was never sold under the rubric "PDP-10".
>
> The 3rd generation KL-10 processor (1974) was brought out both as new model
of
> the DECsystem-10 and as the DECSYSTEM-20; the KS-10 minicomputer (1979) was
the
> DECSYSTEM-2020.

There were arguments about DECSYSTEM-2020, too, but I wasn't involved so
I don't know the details.  It shouldn't have been 2020.

>
> When Digital brought out a server-class version of their MIPS R2000 based
> workstation (the DECstation-3100), it was labeled the DECsystem-3100.
>

/BAH

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Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-10 04:15 -0600
  Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-10 10:22 +0000
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 13:31 -0500
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-10 15:23 -0500
  Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-10 10:45 +0000
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 13:30 -0500
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-10 18:49 +0000
        Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:15 +0000
          Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 14:42 -0500
            Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-12-10 12:45 -0700
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 23:48 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 23:09 -0500
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 14:56 -0600
            Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 06:10 -0800
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-11 16:21 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-11 14:43 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-11 21:56 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-12 04:51 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-12 08:11 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-13 13:50 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-14 00:05 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 21:48 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 21:34 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-12 08:38 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 10:47 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-12 18:41 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 02:33 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-13 23:48 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-14 19:39 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:12 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 12:54 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-14 09:19 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-14 14:31 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-14 19:05 -0400
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-12 11:31 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 10:52 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 09:59 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 11:50 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-12 12:14 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-12 21:37 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 02:37 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-12 22:55 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 00:02 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:24 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-13 13:59 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-14 06:09 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 10:18 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 11:20 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 18:41 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-12-13 11:35 -0800
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-13 10:17 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-13 12:58 -0500
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:01 -0600
                Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 21:36 -0800
              Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-11 14:31 -0500
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:11 +0000
  Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-10 15:49 -0400
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-12-10 17:07 -0600
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-12-10 20:31 -0500
        Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-11 13:35 +0000
        Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-11 06:14 -0800
          Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-12-11 13:48 -0500
          Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:07 -0600
  Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-12-10 12:01 -0800
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-12-10 23:22 +0000
      Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-11 11:01 +0000
    Re: Happy Dec-10 Day!!! "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 14:53 -0600

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