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Re: Happy Thanksgiving

From jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Happy Thanksgiving
Date 2015-11-27 14:06 +0000
Organization "Have EDDT, will travel"
Message-ID <PM000525865ABF4F2A@aca42324.ipt.aol.com> (permalink)
References (11 earlier) <pan.2015.11.26.21.02.00@thorpe.info> <krCdnccc0_ig58rLnZ2dnUU7-L-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <pan.2015.11.26.22.18.07@thorpe.info> <krCdnf4c0_gdF8rLnZ2dnUU7-L8AAAAA@giganews.com> <pan.2015.11.26.23.20.50@thorpe.info>

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Lester Thorpe wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:41:04 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>>
>> a cost estimate for equal performance systems
>>
>
> Equal performance?  What does that mean?
>
> Intrinsically, there is no difference, but the nearly infinite
> configurability of a GNU/Linux system can potentially achieve
> greater performance with respect to many specific situations
> (e.g. real-time processing).
>
> Greater performance in off-the-shelf software may be seen
> in MSFT/Apple products but that is only because these companies,
> and those that support them, refuse to program in universal
> standards.  Indeed, their staff programmers have not the
> competence to do so.
>
> By this time in computing history, software should have
> become a commodity, but both MSFT and Apple continue to
> build their exclusionary "walled gardens."
>
A system owner who uses the computer as a tool does not
want, nor need, to know about anything other than how
to use the app(s) s/he needs to get the work done.
They do not want, nor need, to know how to install patches.
MS and Apple provide that service.

With the advent of the PC, human computer users had to learn
about hard/software and do the work which system analysts,
operators, field servants, computer administrators, network
support groups, purchasing, and other work related to
keeping a computer system functional.  Requiring thses
same people to know monitor, compiler, and app internals
is too much.  Anyone who denigrates system owners who don't
know about machine language is a snob and, therefore,
cannot be a good OS, compiler, or app developer because
of an incapability of knowing what their customers need.

/BAH

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Happy Thanksgiving HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 05:30 -0800
  Re: Happy Thanksgiving Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 09:10 -0600
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    Re: Happy Thanksgiving Lester Thorpe <lt11@thorpe.info> - 2015-11-26 17:51 +0000
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    Re: Happy Thanksgiving "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 12:47 -0800
  Re: Happy Thanksgiving Lester Thorpe <lt11@thorpe.info> - 2015-11-26 21:01 +0000
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        Re: Happy Thanksgiving Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-11-26 16:41 -0600
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