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Re: Honoring our past Presidents

Subject Re: Honoring our past Presidents
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From Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>
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Date 2026-02-21 16:53 -0500

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On 2026-02-21 2:21 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> On 2/21/2026 12:59 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I understand that but the thing is that they were touting these people 
>> as being a benefit to our society. Yet they remain in shelters that 
>> are heavily subsidized by the government. That means we are paying for 
>> them, and I can't see how that can be seen as a benefit to us. Let's 
>> at least be honest and suggest they are burden that we feel obligated 
>> to assist, but let's not say the are a major asset to our economy. 
>> Maybe the shelters should be reserved for newcomers and give them a 
>> limited time to start supporting themselves.
>>
> How many parents still have their adult children living at home for the 
> same reason?  Many cannot afford to go out on their own.

There have always been failures to launch and it does seem to be more 
common these days than it used to me. I know of a few cases and it is 
amazing how well some of those young people can live when they are 
living with parent and paying little or nothing for room and board. 
They can afford to go out clubbing every night, have all the latest 
devices, expensive cell phones and plans, but no money for rent. At any 
rate, those are our problem. We raised them and should perhaps subsidize 
them because that is the way we raised them. I think that most of the 
parents who can't seem to empty their nests are somewhat embarrassed by 
the situation.  However, I was addressing the issue of a broadcaster 
constantly telling us about the benefits of having these people coming 
and contributing so much to our society and then the next day featuring 
a long term shelter resident.


> 
> As for benefits, depends.  Often cheap labor.  I see the people 
> harvesting crops here.  Many kids have after school or summer jobs, but 
> 90 degree heat are all darker skinned and speak other languages.


If Trump gets his way you won't see much of that. He seems determined to 
round them up and ship them back home.

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Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-16 13:01 -0500
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-16 19:32 +0000
    Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-17 07:01 +1100
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 13:13 -0700
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-16 21:34 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-17 08:41 +1100
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-16 21:48 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 15:02 -0700
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-16 21:46 +0000
    Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 15:35 -0600
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-16 21:58 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-16 18:59 -0500
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 17:14 -0700
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 10:13 +0000
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-17 08:55 -0500
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-17 17:42 +0000
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 07:55 +1100
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:19 -0700
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-17 11:05 -0500
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-18 03:25 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 18:42 -0600
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-16 18:57 -0600
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 23:08 -0600
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-17 05:25 +0000
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 10:17 +0000
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-17 09:48 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-17 10:05 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 16:10 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-17 10:12 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:45 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 07:54 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:01 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:33 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 07:48 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-17 16:34 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:42 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 08:43 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:48 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-17 18:02 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 10:11 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 16:46 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 16:43 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-18 05:55 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:30 -0700
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-17 17:47 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 12:10 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:51 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 07:58 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:08 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-02-18 16:43 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 10:21 -0700
                Re: Amputarianism (was: Honoring our past Presidents) Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 12:29 -0600
                Re: Amputarianism (was: Honoring our past Presidents) Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 12:43 -0700
                Re: Amputarianism Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 18:57 -0600
                Re: Amputarianism Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:47 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed Pawlowski <polwskis@kilbaski.not> - 2026-02-18 13:40 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 12:44 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-17 21:25 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 08:29 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:38 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 22:44 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 09:49 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 15:53 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-17 18:19 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 16:56 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-17 18:25 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 09:43 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 19:30 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-18 05:56 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 03:48 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 10:24 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 10:05 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:35 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 19:22 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:48 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-17 21:20 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:37 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 22:44 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 15:52 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 21:24 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> - 2026-02-20 04:48 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:40 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-20 10:01 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-20 11:26 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 16:44 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 12:16 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Pete Tuttle <pmt777@yohaa.not> - 2026-02-20 19:00 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-20 18:34 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 17:40 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-20 19:21 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 16:45 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 11:58 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:32 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> - 2026-02-20 10:36 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 12:42 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 16:43 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-20 13:09 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 19:14 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 13:16 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-20 16:10 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 22:40 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 15:43 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-20 17:48 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> - 2026-02-21 07:39 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 08:48 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-21 10:33 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 08:50 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 14:56 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-02-22 10:05 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:15 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:37 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:32 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 12:55 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 12:16 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 05:44 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 19:16 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 13:20 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 07:45 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 14:53 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 22:40 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 11:07 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-21 10:38 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 10:31 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 09:01 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-21 16:31 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 10:19 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 11:49 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 10:34 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-21 10:32 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 10:57 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 12:59 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 11:37 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-21 11:57 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 12:06 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> - 2026-02-21 12:12 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 12:18 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 14:21 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 12:56 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 07:21 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 13:33 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-21 13:36 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 13:39 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 07:51 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 14:24 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 16:53 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 15:06 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-21 18:11 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 16:21 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-22 03:56 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 15:15 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:41 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents 000-666 <8-0-15@never.invalid> - 2026-02-22 23:10 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 17:13 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 23:21 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-22 04:40 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 23:49 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:43 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:42 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-22 09:55 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-24 02:05 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-24 10:42 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 23:29 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-22 04:52 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:40 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-22 09:55 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:22 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-22 11:54 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 12:02 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:41 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:39 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:31 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-21 18:03 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 16:09 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-21 17:45 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 16:50 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 18:35 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-21 18:00 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-02-22 11:08 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:13 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-21 17:40 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 08:54 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 05:23 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 11:51 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 13:00 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:21 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:29 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:33 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:18 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-17 18:00 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 09:50 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 11:21 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 12:42 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 20:13 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 13:26 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 21:40 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 15:16 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 05:01 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:54 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 17:38 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:55 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 10:17 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 14:03 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 13:40 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 17:59 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:10 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 19:06 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:08 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:53 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:52 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:50 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:49 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 07:57 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:07 -0700
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:07 -0700
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-17 06:57 +1100
    Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 13:11 -0700
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 12:59 -0700
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-17 00:06 +0000
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-17 11:37 +1100
    Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 10:45 -0700
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 07:54 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 08:01 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 09:59 -0700
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 18:05 +0000
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 11:18 -0700
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 18:52 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 12:48 -0700
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 07:15 +1100
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 13:40 -0700
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:33 -0600
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:40 -0700
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:53 +0000
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 10:59 +1100
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 14:44 +1100
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 15:06 +1100
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 15:20 +1100
                Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 15:43 +1100
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:31 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:35 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:39 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:43 -0700
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:30 -0600
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:34 -0700
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:38 -0600
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:42 -0700
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2026-02-16 23:20 -0500
    Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 10:14 +0000
      Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-18 05:51 -0500
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-18 14:18 +0000
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-18 23:35 -0500
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2026-02-19 05:28 +0000
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 10:32 +0000
        Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 05:36 +0000
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 10:34 +0000
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:58 -0600
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 10:17 -0700
            Re: Garlic Bread Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-19 09:13 -0500
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 18:22 +0000
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 22:39 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-19 16:53 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 01:08 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-19 23:05 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:29 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-20 10:10 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-20 21:33 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-21 13:45 -0500
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-21 13:41 -0500
          Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 09:53 -0700
            Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 18:28 +0000
              Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 12:16 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 19:40 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 12:53 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 21:30 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 14:34 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-19 17:44 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 16:00 -0700
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-19 17:01 -0600
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 01:16 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:38 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-20 09:47 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-20 10:13 -0500
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:37 +0000
                Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 22:41 +0000
  Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-17 19:09 -0500

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