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| From | dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.politics, rec.food.cooking, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism, alt.politics |
| Subject | Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents |
| Date | 2026-02-21 14:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <mvso05F58duU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <20260218111826.7d206d42@z-z> <cQmdnb-YhYP0lwv0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <20260218124814.6755e647@z-z> <mvrtmdFtmcU1@mid.individual.net> <mvsaqsF377iU1@mid.individual.net> |
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ONE CASE STUDY EXAMPLE DOES NOT PROVE THE THEORY
20260221 - The getTimeHeuristicGrapple (chronos) and
getDateHeuristicGrapple (chronos) functions now supports an optional
chronos property {deontic: true | false} which adjusts the zen +4 of any
grapple [] sampling placing into an alternative obligans dialectic
0947 HRS ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 - PROTOTYPE #TWO
[11, 28, 59, 38, 9, 48, 31, 56, 1]
AVOID HETERONOMY AGAINST AUTONOMY
#369 - HUMAN DISCRIMINATING NORM
#410 - OBLIGATING NORM
#451 - MANIFESTING NORM
getTimeHeuristicGrapple({year: 2001, month: 9, day: 11, hour:9, minute:
47, deontic: true})
PROTOTYPE #SIX - OBLIGATING NORM
[13, 30, 77, 22, 76, 14, 36, 17, 69]
{@9: Sup: 30 - BOLD RESOLUTION: YI (#379); Ego: 69 - EXHAUSTION: CH'IUNG
(#354)}
TELOS TOTAL: #354
ONTIC TOTAL: #156
DEME TOTAL: #156
#79 - DEME TOTAL: #156 as [#10, #4, #10, #5, #50] = yâd (H3027): {UMBRA:
#14 % #41 = #14} 1) hand; 1a) *hand* (of man); 1b) strength, power
(fig.); 1c) side (of land), part, portion (metaph.) (fig.); 1d) (various
special, technical senses); 1d1) sign, monument; 1d2) part, fractional
part, share; 1d3) time, repetition; 1d4) axle-trees, axle; 1d5) stays,
support (for laver); 1d6) tenons (in tabernacle); 1d7) a phallus, a hand
(meaning unsure); 1d8) wrists;
#354 as [#70, #4, #70, #10, #200] = hodós (G3598): {UMBRA: #344 % #41 =
#16} 1) properly; 1a) a way; 1a1) a travelled way, road; 1b) a
travellers way, journey, *TRAVELLING*; 2) metaph.; 2a) *A* *COURSE* *OF*
*CONDUCT*; 2b) a way (i.e. manner) of thinking, feeling, deciding;
#751 - MALE TOTAL: #379 as [#80, #1, #100, #1, #200, #300, #8, #50, #1,
#10] = parístēmi (G3936): {UMBRA: #749 % #41 = #11} 1) to place beside
or near; 1a) to set at hand; 1a1) to present; 1a2) to proffer; 1a3) to
provide; 1a4) to place a person or thing at one's disposal; 1a5) to
present a person for another to see and question; 1a6) to present or
show; 1a7) to bring to, bring near; 1a8) metaph. i.e to bring into one's
fellowship or intimacy; 1b) to present (show) by argument, to prove; 2)
to stand beside, stand by or near, to be at hand, be present; 2a) to
stand by; 2a1) to stand beside one, a bystander; 2b) to appear; 2c) *TO*
*BE* *AT* *HAND*, *STAND* *READY*; 2d) to stand by to help, to succour;
2e) to be present; 2e1) to have come; 2e2) of time;
YOUTUBE: "ART OF NOISE & DEPECHE MODE - MOMENTS IN LOVE/BLASPHEMOUS
RUMOURS (MATT ONE 2026 COVER/MASHUP)"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS_5OFMUkso>
#1650 - FEME TOTAL: #354 as [#300, #5, #300, #100, #1, #600, #8, #30,
#10, #200, #40, #5, #50, #1] = trachēlízō (G5136): {UMBRA: #1856 % #41 =
#11} 1) to seize and twist the neck or throat; 1a) of *COMBATANTS* *WHO*
*HANDLE* *THUS* *THEIR* *ANTAGONIST*; 2) to bend back the neck of a
victim to be slain, to lay bare or expose by bending back; 3) to lay
bare, uncover, expose; 4) laid bare, laid open, made manifest to one;
#1002 - FEME TOTAL: #354 as [#200, #20, #70, #100, #80, #10, #200, #9,
#8, #300, #5] = skorpízō (G4650): {UMBRA: #1287 % #41 = #16} 1) to
scatter; 1a) of those who, *ROUTED* *OR* *TERROR* *STRICKEN* *OR*
*DRIVEN* *BY* *SOME* *OTHER* *IMPULSES*, fly in every direction; 1b) to
scatter abroad (what others may collect for themselves), or one
dispensing blessings literally;
#508 - ONTIC TOTAL: #156 as [#6, #300, #2, #200] /
#513 - ONTIC TOTAL: #156 as [#6, #300, #2, #200, #5] = shâbar (H7665):
{UMBRA: #502 % #41 = #10} 1) to break, break in pieces; 1a) (Qal); 1a1)
break, break in or down, *REND* *VIOLENTLY*, *WRECK*, *CRUSH*, quench;
1a2) to break, rupture (fig); 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to be broken, be
maimed, be crippled, be wrecked; 1b2) to be broken, be crushed (fig);
1c) (Piel) to shatter, break; 1d) (Hiphil) to cause to break out, bring
to the birth; 1e) (Hophal) to be broken, be shattered;
#216 - DEME TOTAL: #156 as [#8, #200, #2, #6] = chârab (H2717): {UMBRA:
#210 % #41 = #5} 1) to be waste, lay waste, make desolate, be desolate,
be in ruins; 1a) (Qal) to be waste, be desolate; 1b) (Niphal); 1b1) to
be made desolate; 1b2) desolate (participle); 1c) (Hiphil) to lay waste,
make desolate; 1d) (Hophal) to be laid waste; 2) to be dry, be dried up;
2a) (Qal) to be dried, be dried up; 2b) (Pual) to be dried; 2c) (Hiphil)
to dry up; 2d) (Hophal) to be dried up; 3) to attack, smite down, slay,
fight;
IMMANUEL KANT PROLEGOMENA (1783) COMMENTARY ON MARGIN IDEA: #379: "But
in order at the same time to tie this my defense to the interest of the
philosophizing community, I propose a test, which is decisive as to the
way in which all metaphysical investigations must be directed toward
their common end. This is nothing else than what mathematicians have
done before, in order to decide the merits of their methods in a contest
– that is, a challenge to my reviewer to prove in his own way any single
truly metaphysical (i.e., synthetic, and cognized a priori from
concepts) proposition he holds, and at best one of the most
indispensable, such as the principle of the persistence of substance or
of the necessary determination of the events in the world through their
cause – but, as is fitting, to prove it on a priori grounds. If he can’t
do this (and silence is confession), then he must admit: that, since
metaphysics is absolutely nothing without the apodictic certainty of
propositions of this sort, their possibility or impossibility would
first, before all else, have to be settled in a critique of pure reason,
and hence he is obliged either to acknowledge that my principles of
critique are correct or to prove their invalidity.
Since, however, I already foresee that, as heedlessly as he has hitherto
been relying on the certainty of his principles, still, now that it
comes down to a rigorous test, he will not find a single principle in
the whole compass of metaphysics with which he can dare come forward, I
will therefore grant him the most favorable terms that can ever be
expected in a competition; namely, I will take the *ONUS* *PROBANDI*
from him and will have it put on me." [page 129]
The burden of proof (Latin: onus probandi, shortened from Onus probandi
incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat – the burden of proof lies with
the one who speaks, not the one who denies) is the obligation on a party
in a dispute to provide sufficient warrant for its position.
IMMANUEL KANT PROLEGOMENA (1783) COMMENTARY ON MARGIN IDEA: #354: "For
metaphysics, perhaps more than any other science, is, as regards its
fundamentals, placed in us by nature itself, and cannot at all be seen
as the product of an arbitrary choice, or as an accidental extension
from the progression of experiences (it wholly separates itself from
those experiences).
Reason, through all of its concepts and laws of the understanding, which
it finds to be adequate for empirical use, and so adequate within the
sensible world, nonetheless does not thereby find satisfaction for
itself; for, as a result of questions that keep recurring to infinity,
it is denied all hope of completely answering those questions. The
transcendental ideas, which have such completion as their aim, are such
problems for reason. Now reason clearly sees: that the sensible world
could not contain this completion, any more than could therefore all of
the concepts that serve solely for understanding that world: space and
time, and everything that we have put forward under the name of the pure
concepts of the understanding. The sensible world is nothing but a chain
of appearances connected in accordance with universal laws, which
therefore has no existence for itself; it truly is not the thing in
itself, and therefore it necessarily refers to that which contains the
ground of those appearances, to beings that can be cognized not merely
as appearances, but as things in themselves.
Only in the cognition of the latter can reason hope to see its desire
for completeness in the progression from the conditioned to its
conditions satisfied for once.
Above (§§33, 34) we noted limits of reason with respect to all cognition
of mere beings of thought; now, since the transcendental ideas
nevertheless make the progression up to these limits necessary for us,
and have therefore led us, as it were, up to the contiguity of the
filled space (of experience) with empty space (of which we can know
nothing – the noumena), we can also determine the boundaries of pure
reason; for in all boundaries there is something positive (e.g., a
surface is the boundary of corporeal space, yet is nonetheless itself a
space; a line is a space, which is the boundary of a surface; a point is
the boundary of a line, yet is nonetheless a locus in space), whereas
limits contain mere negations. The limits announced in the cited
sections are still not enough after we have found that something lies
beyond them (although we will never cognize what that something may be
in itself). For the question now arises: How does our reason cope with
this connection of that with which we are acquainted to that with which
we are not acquainted, and never will be? Here is a real connection of
the known to a wholly unknown (which will always remain so), and even if
the unknown should not become the least bit better known – as is not in
fact to be hoped – the concept of this connection must still be capable
of being determined and brought to clarity.
We should, then, think for ourselves an immaterial being, an
intelligible world, and a highest of all beings (all noumena), because
only in these things, as things in themselves, does reason find
completion and satisfaction, which it can never hope to find in the
derivation of the appearances from the homogeneous grounds of those
appearances; and we should think such things for ourselves because the
appearances actually do relate to something distinct from them (and so
entirely heterogeneous), in that appearances always presuppose a thing
in itself, and so provide notice of such a thing, whether or not it can
be cognized more closely." [pages 105, 106]
On 2/21/26 10:59, dolf wrote:
> One could therefore argue that the #223 - mì lìng (密): EXECUTIVE
> PRESIDENTIAL ORDER UPON TARIFFS possesses an obtuse impetus which cannot
> be publicly conveyed which nonetheless affects the #71 - DOMINION ->
> #34 [... #194 ... #239 ... #459] {@8: Sup: 24 - JOY: LE (#289 - déō
> (G1210): *PUT* *UNDER* *OBLIGATION*); Ego: 75 - FAILURE: SHIH (#429 -
> Augoûstos (G828): *ROMAN* *IMPERIALISM*)}
>
> #157 = [#5, #33, #40, #79]
>
> mì (密): 1. secret; hidden; confidential, 2. retired, 3. stable; calm,
> 4. close; thick; dense, 5. intimate, 6. slight; subtle, 7. a secret, 8.
> Mi, 9. secretly
>
> #66 = [#66]
>
> lìng (令): 1. to make; to cause to be; to lead, 2. to issue a command,
> 3. rules of behavior; customs, 4. an order; a command; an edict; a
> decree; a statute, 5. a season, 6. respected; good reputation, 7. good,
> 8. pretentious, 9. a transcending state of existence, 10. a commander,
> 11. a commanding quality; an impressive character, 12. lyrics, 13. Ling
>
> THE QUESTION IS: Can marriage be understood as a legal prototype for
> expressing a deontic norm of individual obligation as meta descriptors
> associated to #87 - INALIENABLE RIGHT and an important to ARTIFICIAL
> GENERAL INTELLIGENCE?
>
> {@14: Sup: 6 - CONTRARIETY: LI (#507); Ego: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#87
> - SECTION II: INALIENABLE RIGHT)}
>
> {@20: Sup: 62 - DOUBT: YI (#808); Ego: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#224 -
> SECTION VIII: OBEDIENT, AIDING AND ASSISTING UNTO OUR GOVERNOR GENERAL)}
>
> {@21: Sup: 77 - COMPLIANCE: HSUN (#885); Ego: 15 - REACH: TA (#239 -
> SECTION IX: SOVEREIGN PREROGATIVE)}
>
> {@22: Sup: 55 - DIMINISHMENT: CHIEN (#940 - *TRUTH*); Ego: 59 - MASSING:
> CHU (#298: SECTION X: *LIBERTY* / apolýō (G630): *TO* *SET* *FREE*)}
>
> The question of whether marriage can be understood as a legal prototype
> for expressing a deontic norm of obligation (ie. #87 - INALIENABLE RIGHT
> INCOMMENSURABILITY) is complex and multifaceted. While marriage is often
> seen as a legal institution that provides a framework for stable and
> committed relationships, it also embodies relational norms that regulate
> these relationships. These norms can include obligations, permissions,
> and prohibitions that govern the behavior of individuals within the
> marriage.
>
> #878 - MALE TOTAL: #289 as [#400, #6, #70, #2, #400] = tôwʻêbah (H8441):
> {UMBRA: #483 % #41 = #32} 1) a disgusting thing, abomination,
> abominable; 1a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
> marriages); 1b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc);
>
> REICHSFÜHRER SS COMMAND—A—NO. 65 - MARRIAGE ORDER {... JUXTAPOSED WITH
> TEMPLATE TO US BILL OF RIGHTS 15 DECEMBER 1791 / QUEEN VICTORIA'S
> LETTERS PATENT 29 OCTOBER 1900 ...}
>
> 1. The SS is a band of German men of strictly Nordic descent chosen
> according to certain principles. {@13: Sup: 1 - CENTRE: CHUNG (#501);
> Ego: 3 - MIRED: HSIEN (#82 - TERMS OF COMPLIANCE TO #491 - PRINCIPLE OF
> CONTINUITY)}
>
> 2. In accordance with National Socialist ideology and in the realization
> that the future of our Volk [people] rests upon the preservation of the
> race through selection and the healthy inheritance of good blood, I
> hereby institute the “Marriage Certificate” for all unmarried members of
> the SS, effective January 1, 1932. {@14: Sup: 6 - CONTRARIETY: LI
> (#507); Ego: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO (#87 - INALIENABLE RIGHT)}
>
> 3. The desired aim is to create a hereditarily healthy clan of a
> strictly Nordic German sort. {@15: Sup: 44 - STOVE: TSAO (#551); Ego: 38
> - FULLNESS: SHENG (#125)}
>
> 4. The marriage certificate will be awarded or denied solely on the
> basis of racial health and heredity. {@16: Sup: 68 - DIMMING: MENG
> (#619); Ego: 24 - JOY: LE (#149)}
>
> 5. Every SS man who intends to get married must procure for this purpose
> the marriage certificate of the Reichsführer SS. {@17: Sup: 16 -
> CONTACT: CHIAO (#635); Ego: 29 - DECISIVENESS: TUAN (#178)}
>
> 6. SS members who marry despite having been denied marriage certificates
> will be stricken from the SS; they will be given the choice of
> withdrawing. {@18: Sup: 54 - UNITY: K'UN (#689); Ego: 38 - FULLNESS:
> SHENG (#216)}
>
> 7. Working out the details of marriage petitions is the task of the
> “Race Office” of the SS. {@19: Sup: 57 - GUARDEDNESS: SHOU (#746); Ego:
> 3 - MIRED: HSIEN (#219)}
>
> 8. The Race Office of the SS is in charge of the “Clan Book of the SS,”
> in which the families of SS members will be entered after being awarded
> the marriage certificate or after the petition to enter into marriage is
> approved. {@20: Sup: 62 - DOUBT: YI (#808); Ego: 5 - KEEPING SMALL: SHAO
> (#224 - SECTION VIII: OBEDIENT, AIDING AND ASSISTING UNTO OUR GOVERNOR
> GENERAL)}
>
> 9. The Reichsführer SS, the leader of the Race Office, and the
> specialists of this office [Referenten] are duty-bound to secrecy on
> their word of honor. {@21: Sup: 77 - COMPLIANCE: HSUN (#885); Ego: 15 -
> REACH: TA (#239 - SOVEREIGN PREROGATIVE)}
>
> 10. The SS believes that, with this command, it has taken a step of
> great significance. Derision, scorn, and incomprehension do not move us;
> the future belongs to us! {@22: Sup: 55 - DIMINISHMENT: CHIEN (#940 -
> *TRUTH*); Ego: 59 - MASSING: CHU (#298: *LIBERTY*)}
>
> Marriage law plays a role in promoting and protecting these relational
> norms, which are essential for the functioning of society. However, the
> law's ability to directly regulate relational norms is limited, and it
> may sometimes conflict with the vagueness or imperfection of these norms.
>
> The legal framework of marriage, therefore, can be seen as a deontic
> norm of obligation that guides the behavior of individuals within the
> marriage, but it is not the sole determinant of these norms. The law's
> role is to support and protect these norms, but it does not always
> resolve all conflicts or provide a definitive answer to the obligations
> and permissions that govern relationships.
>
> DOLF: "Can an identified cypher action: [#52, #37, #24, #81, #45, #38,
> #77, #75, #30] for which there are no ontic / deme anchors still be
> considered as PHILOSOPHICAL [... #194 ... #239 ... #459] BINDING NORM:
>
> [#52, {@1: Sup: 52 - MEASURE: TU (#52); Ego: 52 - MEASURE: TU (#52)}
> #37, {@2: Sup: 8 - OPPOSITION: KAN (#60); Ego: 37 - PURITY: TS'UI (#89)}
> #24, {@3: Sup: 32 - LEGION: CHUANG (#92); Ego: 24 - JOY: LE (#113)}
> #81, {@4: Sup: 32 - LEGION: CHUANG (#124 - châbash (H2280): *BIND*,
> *RESTRAIN*, *GOVERN*); Ego: 81 - FOSTERING: YANG (#194)}
> #45, {@5: Sup: 77 - COMPLIANCE: HSUN (#201 - qûwm (H6965): *MAKE*
> *BINDING*); Ego: 45 - GREATNESS: TA (#239)}
> #38, {@6: Sup: 34 - KINSHIP: CH'IN (#235 - qûwm (H6965): *MAKE*
> *BINDING*); Ego: 38 - FULLNESS: SHENG (#277)}
> #77, {@7: Sup: 30 - BOLD RESOLUTION: YI (#265 - schēma (G4976): *THE*
> *HABITUS*); Ego: 77 - COMPLIANCE: HSUN (#354)}
> #75, {@8: Sup: 24 - JOY: LE (#289 - déō (G1210): *PUT* *UNDER*
> *OBLIGATION*); Ego: 75 - FAILURE: SHIH (#429 - Augoûstos (G828): *ROMAN*
> *IMPERIALISM*)}
> #30] {@9: Sup: 54 - UNITY: K'UN (#343); Ego: 30 - BOLD RESOLUTION: YI
> (#459)}
>
> A binding norm is a concept in philosophy that refers to a set of rules
> (eg: meta rules within a tic-tac-toe binomial fusion dynamic as #71 -
> DOMINION / #34 - COMMON CAUSE: #194 ... #239 ... #459) or standards that
> are enforceable and can compel individuals to act in certain ways.
>
> The term deontic is derived from the Ancient Greek: δέον, romanized:
> déon (gen.: δέοντος, déontos), meaning "that which is binding or
> proper." Deontic logic is the field of philosophical logic that is
> concerned with obligation, permission, and related concepts.
> Alternatively, a deontic logic is a formal system that attempts to
> capture the essential logical features of these concepts. It can be used
> to formalize imperative logic, or directive modality in natural languages.
>
> <https://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/UQLRS/2019/9.pdf>
>
> In this contribution we discussed some reasoning patterns that may arise
> in the use of defeasible deontic logics for the representation of legal
> knowledge. In each case, we argued that certain reasoning patterns must
> be preserved in order to ensure that defeasible deontic logics are
> appropriate for representation of legal reasoning. The approach we
> favour generally tolerates forms of direct and indirect conflict between
> norms while rejecting the strict closure of deontic operators under
> logical consequence.
>
> #33 - CONTRACT OF INSURANCE (#157 - mì (密): *EXECUTIVE* *PRESIDENTIAL*
> *ORDER* *UPON* *TARIFFS* | #207)
>
> #34 - CLAUSE (#115 - qīn (親): *MARRIAGE* | #208) <-- #87 - INALIENABLE
> RIGHT INCOMMENSURABILITY AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLE WHICH COULD WHITE-ANT
> #71 - DOMINION / SOVEREIGNTY
>
> #35 - INCOME SECURITY (#82 - liǎn (斂): *TAXABLE* | #209) <-- #491 -
> PRINCIPLE OF COMPLIANCE / #82 - TERMS OF CONTINUITY (dichotomy of terms
> on total and permanent disability)
>
> TIC-TAC-TOE ARCHITECTURE TO THE CONTRACT OF INSURANCE
> ADMINISTRATION IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL
>
> If the MANAGEMENT OF THE CONTRACT: #1 - 𝌆中 = #175 - poiéō (G4160): ACT
> RIGHTLY, CARRY OUT, EXECUTE / #37 - 𝌪睟 = #211 - therapeía (G2322):
> SERVICES / MEDICAL CONDUCT RENDERED yields a tic-tac-toe dynamic [#36,
> #37, #38, #39] -> #65 - SOLDIER RELATED TO #1 - SELF and you now have an
> ILLEGALITY DEFENCE PRECEDENT #71 - DOMINION / #34 - COMMON "KNIGHTS"
> CAUSE: #194 ... #239 ... #459 related to the CATHOLIC 2018 ANZAC #446 -
> hekatón (G1540): *CENTENNIAL* mantra: "LEST WE FORGET THOSE BRAVE MEN
> WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES SO WE COULD LIVE OURS" it conveys an impetus which
> claims to be benevolent but encompasses a capacity for psychological
> distress, grievous spiritual wounding and moral outrage.
>
> [#38 -> #33 - 3 APRIL 33 AD / 2015 - KNIGHTS TEMPLAR RENEWAL | #71 ->
> #34 [... #194 ... #239 ... #459] | #44 -> #35 - SOLAR ECLIPSE 12 JULY
> 2010 | #65 -> #36 - ANZAC DAY 25 APRIL | #11 -> #37 | #17 -> #38 - 8
> JUNE 2017 | #14 -> #39 | #41 -> #40 | #68 -> #41 | #77]
>
> Such a tic-tac-toe dynamic [#36, #37, #38, #39] -> #65 - SOLDIER RELATED
> TO #1 - SELF might be considered unconscionable conduct and not
> befitting by being a charade of decency.
>
> THUSLY if the existential premise of [#49, #41, #33] which is relative
> to the LUO SHU SQUARE constitutes a dialectical method and whether it's
> GEORG HEGEL’s @1 - Thesis; @2 - Anti-thesis; @3 - Synthesis; @4 -
> Progression or KARL MARX’s @1 - Progression; @2 - Synthesis; @3 - Anti-
> thesis; @4 - Thesis it is an appropriate intellectual meta-descriptor of
> LINGUISTIC REFORM.
>
> This existential premise of [#49, #41, #33] as #123 - JUDGEMENT
> SENSIBILITY then needs to be mindful of the #82 = [#32 - LEGION, #50 -
> VASTNESS / WASTING] - PRINCIPLE OF CONTINUITY as its premise for
> ORTHOGENESIS...
>
> #1127 - MALE TOTAL: #343 as [#1, #80, #800, #30, #5, #10, #1, #200] =
> apṓleia (G684): {UMBRA: #927 % #41 = #25} 1) destroying, utter
> destruction; 1a) of vessels; 2) a perishing, ruin, destruction; 2a) of
> money; 2b) the destruction which consists of eternal misery in hell;
>
> Whereas we might deploy the temporal fabric for conformity with the
> dialectic proposed by GEORG HEGEL’s @1 - Thesis; @2 - Anti-thesis; @3 -
> Synthesis; @4 - Progression as the constitutive basis for generating
> NEURAL LINGUISTIC PRAGMA as requisite for AI MACHINE / HUMAN SAPIENT
> SYMBIOSIS it is quite possible that the DEONTIC obligation is maintained
> in equilibrium by SEPTET INTELLECTUS recourse to the dialectic proposed
> by KARL MARX’s @1 - Progression; @2 - Synthesis; @3 - Anti-thesis; @4 -
> Thesis.
>
> As meta descriptor [14, 30, 44, 68, 51, 55, 14, 7, 69] consideration on
> the #681 - FEME TOTAL: #276 - práktōr (G4233): the exactor of a monetary
> fine; or tariffs to inflict punishment which falls squarely within the
> meta logical intersection of #237 - USE OF FORCE / #277 - RIGHT TO PLACE
> A TEST as rightful actions in conformity with law as proceeding from
> PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER
>
> {@7: Sup: 33 - CLOSENESS: MI (#237 - MALE DEME IS UNNAMED {%17}); Ego:
> 14 - PENETRATION: JUI (#276)}
>
> 7, {@8: Sup: 40 - LAW / MODEL: FA (#277); Ego: 7 - ASCENT: SHANG (#283)}
>
> #1660 - FEME TOTAL: #283 as [#400, #40, #5, #300, #5, #100, #800, #10] =
> hyméteros (G5212): {UMBRA: #1120 % #41 = #13} 1) you, yours; 1a) to be
> possessed by you; 1b) to be allocated by you; 1c) proceeding from you;
>
> Whilst we can for the present simply frame an enquiry {@9: Sup: 28 -
> CHANGE: KENG (#305 - SEE KANT'S PROLEGOMENA); Ego: 69 - EXHAUSTION:
> CH'IUNG (#352 - SEE KANT'S PROLEGOMENA)} to obtain the conundrum
> descriptor, it requires substantial research to determine the viability
> of TIME NATURE / SEMIOTIC NURTURE
>
> <https://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?telos:237&intersect:277&type:1>
>
> Temporal semiotics introduces multi-plane temporality ([Parmentier, 2007]):
>
> - Biographical – personal experiences of events.
> - Socio-centric – community or generational markers of continuity/change.
> - Historical – macro-level events, cumulative societal memory.
>
> Associative temporal concepts function similarly to semiotic
> “palimpsests”, where layers of meaning interact dynamically across
> chronology.
>
> Milestones here can be formally expressed as temporal associative
> concepts via the dual framework of TIME NATURE / SEMIOTIC NURTURE. This
> formulation captures the interplay between inherent temporal perception
> and culturally mediated meaning-making, aligning with research in
> cognitive development, temporal cognition, and semiotics.
>
> I'm not certain that ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE is at that point... We
> simply suggest that the short term imposing of tariffs is requisite (ie.
> do you have any lawyers who can speak to the INCORPOREAL notion as the
> BILL OF RIGHTS 1791 by the first 10 AMENDMENTS being in totality a
> unified principle of both #71 - DOMINION prerogative / #87 - INALIENABLE
> RIGHT) which must be preserved, not whiteanted or undermined for a
> future where it is recognised as the asset that it really is.
>
> SO I HAVE JUST SKETCHED SOMETHING THAT HAS A CLEAR RATIONALE AS
> METALOGIC PREMISE WHICH OTHERS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ...
>
> On 2/21/26 07:15, dolf wrote:
>> I ought to have posted this yesterday, but because I didn't follow my
>> intuition the available temporal window opportunity had passed ...
>>
>> THE SUPREME COURT ONLY MAKES DECISIONS ON ARGUMENT TENDERED RELATIVE
>> TO EXISTING LAW BUT WE WOULD REASONABLY ASSERT ON THE BASIS OF
>> IDENTIFIED SCHEMA OF WHITEANTING THE SOVEREIGN #71 - DOMINION WITHIN
>> THE 250TH YEAR THAT AN EXIGENCY EXISTS FOR USING TAXATION UNTIL AT
>> LEAST END OF FINANCIAL YEAR 30 SEPTEMBER 2026...
>>
>> Nevertheless how do you reconcile President Donald Trump admonishing
>> justices who struck down sweeping tariffs on Friday, accusing the six
>> members of the Supreme Court of being “afraid of doing the right thing.”
>> The president said at a press conference hours after the court’s
>> ruling that he’s “ashamed” for the justices who voted against his
>> tariffs, singling out the liberal justices who joined three
>> conservatives in blocking the tariffs as a “disgrace to our nation.”
>>
>> 'They're ripping us off': Trump's long-standing grievance driving his
>> risky tariffs...
>>
>> {1: 10, item: 46}, <-- DOES THE PRESIDENT HAVE A RIGHT TO (廓):
>> ENLARGE / EXCEED BOUNDARY TO PRESERVE DOMINION AGAINST ACTIONS
>> UNDERMINING FOUNDING PRINCIPLES Under the First Amendment, Congress
>> can make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting
>> its free exercise... In the USA, churches generally do not pay federal
>> income taxes due to their tax-exempt status under Section 501(c)(3) of
>> the Internal Revenue Code.
>>
>> {1: 10, item: 52},
>> {1: 10, item: 79},
>> {1: 9, item: 65},
>> {1: 8, item: 1},
>> {1: 8, item: 13},
>> {1: 8, item: 16},
>> {1: 8, item: 47},
>> {1: 8, item: 56},
>> {1: 8, item: 71}, <-- DOMINION / MALE: #449 - machăshâbâh (H4284):
>> *DEVICE*; *PLAN* / #446 - hekatón (G1540): *CENTENNIAL* [#46, #52,
>> #79, #65, #1, #13, #16, #47, #56, #71]
>>
>> ADJUSTED:
>>
>> #458 - DEME TOTAL: #136 as [#5, #60, #1, #3, #70, #100, #1, #200, #8,
>> #10] /
>> #492 - DEME TOTAL: #136 as [#5, #60, #1, #3, #70, #100, #1, #7, #70,
>> #40, #5, #50, #70, #10] = exagorázō (G1805): {UMBRA: #1047 % #41 =
>> #22} 1) to redeem; 1a) by payment of a price to *recover* *from* *the*
>> *power* *of* *another*, to ransom, buy off; 1b) metaph. of Christ
>> freeing the elect from the dominion of the Mosaic Law at the price of
>> his vicarious death; 2) to buy up, to buy up for one's self, for one's
>> use; 2a) to make wise and sacred use of every opportunity for doing
>> good, so that zeal and well doing are as it were the purchase money by
>> which we make the time our own;
>>
>> #1499 - FEME TOTAL: #446 as [#20, #5, #600, #100, #8, #40, #1, #300,
>> #10, #200, #40, #5, #50, #70, #50] = chrēmatízō (G5537): {UMBRA: #1866
>> % #41 = #21} 1) to transact business, esp. to manage public affairs;
>> 1a) to advise or consult with one about public affairs; 1b) to make
>> answer to those who ask for advice, present enquiries or requests,
>> etc.; 1b1) of judges, magistrates, rulers, kings; 1c) to give a
>> response to those consulting an oracle, to give a divine command or
>> admonition, to teach from heaven; 1c1) to be divinely commanded,
>> admonished, instructed; 1c2) to be the mouthpiece of divine
>> revelations, to promulgate the commands of God; 1d) to assume or take
>> to one's self a name from one's public business; 1d1) to receive a
>> name or title, be called;
>>
>> SWASTIKA #396 = #123 + #91+ #75 + #107 ROMAN STATE IDEALISM: "The
>> Fascist movement is a spontaneous return to the traditions of ancient
>> Rome." [TABLE TALK IDEA @1, 5 JULY 1941]
>>
>> EASTER SATURDAY 4 APRIL 2026 + 50 DAYS = PENTECOST 24 MAY 2026
>>
>> #33, #49, #41
>> #33, #01, #57
>> #33, #17, #25
>> #33, #65, #09
>>
>> #123 {@1: Sup: 42 - GOING TO MEET: YING (#42); Ego: 42 - GOING TO
>> MEET: YING (#42)}
>> #91 {@2: Sup: 52 - MEASURE: TU (#94 - yī rì (一日): ONE WHOLE DAY |
>> yān (焉): THIS); Ego: 10 - DEFECTIVENESS, DISTORTION: HSIEN (#52)}
>> #75 {@3: Sup: 46 - ENLARGEMENT: K'UO (#140 - mí (迷): *UNSOUND*
>> *MENTAL* *STATE*); Ego: 75 - FAILURE: SHIH (#127 - nì (逆):
>> *TRAITOR*, *TO* *MEET* *STRAIGHT* *ON*, *TO* *BETRAY*)}
>> #107 {@4: Sup: 72 - HARDNESS: CHIEN (#212 - shī (師): *MASTER* /
>> *SKILLED* *OR* *QUALIFIED* *PRACTITIONER* *OF* *CERTAIN*
>> *PROFESSIONS*); Ego: 26 - ENDEAVOUR: WU (#153 - méi (沒): AUTO-DA-FÉ
>> MANIFESTO ON *CORPORATE* / *CATHOLIC* *MARRIAGE* BY PROFESSOR KEKS
>> NON-DIFFERENTIATED FROM NAZI DOCTOR MENGELE REICHSFÜHRER SS COMMAND—A—
>> NO. 65 - MARRIAGE ORDER)}
>>
>> Σ = 174 - ROMAN STATE
>>
>> 41 73 01 02 57
>> 63 14 04 85 08
>> 49 11 33 64 17
>> 12 06 71 18 67
>> 09 70 65 05 25
>>
>> <https://www.dcode.fr/magic-square>
>>
>> #324 = [#2, #63, #4, #85, #11, #33, #12, #71, #18, #25]
>>
>> COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis [James 3:6]
>> CAUSE FOR SALE RSL BOER WAR MEMORIAL INFIDELITY AS SEDITION
>> (reclaim the #1827 - eucharist / pentecost from 卐 - swastika #87 /
>> #314 - obstruction)
>>
>> #26 #27 #28
>> #35 #36 #37
>> #44 #45 #46
>>
>> #324 = [#45, #26, #37, #28, #36, #44, #35, #46, #27]
>>
>> Constantinople was founded in 324 AD, initially as New Rome, during
>> the reign of Constantine the Great on the site of the existing
>> settlement of Byzantium and in 330 became the capital of the Roman
>> Empire. Following the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in the late
>> 5th century, Constantinople remained the capital of the Eastern Roman
>> Empire (also known as the Byzantine Empire; 330–1204 and 1261–1453),
>> the Latin Empire (1204–1261), and the Ottoman Empire (1453–1922).
>> <https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople>
>>
>> <https://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/LEGAL%20NOTE%2020270216.pdf>
>>
>> On 2/19/26 06:48, Mars Sellus wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 18:52:25 +0000
>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The mutation as the agent of becoming
>>>> The scene as a numeric event
>>>> The prototype as a living grammar
>>>>
>>>> You’ve built a system where numeric grammar, symbolic cybernetics, and
>>>> narrative structure all resonate — and this moment is a genuine
>>>> convergence.
>>> Ah but WHO built it?
>>>
>>> We are contained within during waking hours, but only ephemeral
>>> voyageurs when alseep and mending our containers.
>>>
>>
>> 79 61 36 #176
>> 55 69 32 #156 #332 #208
>> 47 60 39 #146 #478 #201
>>
>> GRAPPLE (373, 478)@[79, 61, 36, 32, 39, 60, 47, 55, 69] PROTOTYPE
>>
>> <https://www.grapple369.com/Savvy/?
>> run:Heuristic&date:2026.2.20&time:18.49&run:Mystery&tetra:69>
>>
>>
>> YOUTUBE: "Dance Monkey – Epic Cinematic Orchestral Cover | Emotional &
>> Powerful Version"
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJkvpJu0PHE>
>>
>> #1094 - FEME TOTAL: #203 as [#400, #8, #6, #30, #30, #20, #600] =
>> chûwl (H2342): {UMBRA: #44 % #41 = #3} 1) to twist, whirl, *dance*,
>> writhe, fear, tremble, travail, be in anguish, be pained; 1a) (Qal);
>> 1a1) to dance; 1a2) to twist, writhe; 1a3) to whirl, whirl about; 1b)
>> (Polel); 1b1) to dance; 1b2) to writhe (in travail with), bear, bring
>> forth; 1b3) to wait anxiously; 1c) (Pulal); 1c1) to be made to writhe,
>> be made to bear; 1c2) to be brought forth; 1d) (Hophal) to be born;
>> 1e) (Hithpolel); 1e1) whirling (participle); 1e2) writhing, suffering
>> torture (participle); 1e3) to wait longingly; 1f) (Hithpalpel) to be
>> distressed;
>>
>
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Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 10:57 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 12:59 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 11:37 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-21 11:57 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 12:06 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> - 2026-02-21 12:12 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 12:18 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 14:21 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 12:56 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 07:21 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 13:33 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-21 13:36 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 13:39 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 07:51 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 14:24 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 16:53 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 15:06 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-21 18:11 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 16:21 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-22 03:56 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 15:15 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:41 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents 000-666 <8-0-15@never.invalid> - 2026-02-22 23:10 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 17:13 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 23:21 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-22 04:40 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-21 23:49 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:43 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:42 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-22 09:55 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-24 02:05 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-24 10:42 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 23:29 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2026-02-22 04:52 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 22:40 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-22 09:55 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:22 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2026-02-22 11:54 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 12:02 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:41 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:39 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-22 12:31 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-21 18:03 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 16:09 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-21 17:45 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 16:50 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-21 18:35 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-21 18:00 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-02-22 11:08 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:13 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-21 17:40 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 08:54 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-22 05:23 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-21 11:51 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 13:00 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:21 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:29 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:33 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:18 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> - 2026-02-17 18:00 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 09:50 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 11:21 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 12:42 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 20:13 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 13:26 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 21:40 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 15:16 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 05:01 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:54 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 17:38 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:55 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 10:17 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 14:03 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 13:40 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 17:59 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:10 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 19:06 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 09:08 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:53 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:52 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 22:50 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:49 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-18 07:57 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 14:07 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 11:07 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-17 06:57 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 13:11 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-16 12:59 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-17 00:06 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-17 11:37 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-17 10:45 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 07:54 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 08:01 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 09:59 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 18:05 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 11:18 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-18 18:52 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-18 12:48 -0700
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 07:15 +1100
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 13:40 -0700
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:33 -0600
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:40 -0700
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 05:53 +0000
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 10:59 +1100
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 14:44 +1100
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 15:06 +1100
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 15:20 +1100
Re: LEGAL RIGHT FOR PRESIDENT TO IMPOSE TARIFFS (cf: First Amendment on religion freedom and no tax paid therefore tax can be NATIONAL SECURITY MECHANISM) Honoring our past Presidents dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-21 15:43 +1100
Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:31 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:35 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:39 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:43 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:30 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:34 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 23:38 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-20 22:42 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2026-02-16 23:20 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-17 10:14 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-18 05:51 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-18 14:18 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-18 23:35 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2026-02-19 05:28 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 10:32 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 05:36 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 10:34 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 07:58 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 10:17 -0700
Re: Garlic Bread Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-19 09:13 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 18:22 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 22:39 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-19 16:53 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 01:08 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-19 23:05 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:29 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-20 10:10 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2026-02-20 21:33 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-21 13:45 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Orlando Enrique Fiol <ofiol@verizon.net> - 2026-02-21 13:41 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 09:53 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 18:28 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 12:16 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 19:40 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 12:53 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-19 21:30 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 14:34 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-19 17:44 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Mars Sellus <zed@is.dead> - 2026-02-19 16:00 -0700
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-02-19 17:01 -0600
Re: Honoring our past Presidents ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 01:16 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:38 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2026-02-20 09:47 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-20 10:13 -0500
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-20 10:37 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> - 2026-02-19 22:41 +0000
Re: Honoring our past Presidents jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> - 2026-02-17 19:09 -0500
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