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| From | David Hartung <shitbag.hartung@shitbags.r.us> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: Missing Sub |
| Newsgroups | alt.fan.rush-limbaugh |
| References | (1 earlier) <u7280q$3ba0u$1@dont-email.me> <XnsB02BD6D9627C2noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.50> <u743gj$3nlff$1@dont-email.me> <293cc849-6161-4530-a940-612414e6614cn@googlegroups.com> <u744v2$3nlff$2@dont-email.me> |
| Message-ID | <MPklM.5937$a0G8.1374@fx34.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2023-06-23 10:40 -0700 |
On 6/23/2023 5:59 AM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times at
parochial school, lied:
> On 6/23/2023 8:50 AM, -hh wrote:
>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:34:29 AM UTC-4, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times at parochial school, lied:
>>> On 6/22/2023 10:09 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times at parochial school, lied:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> The real question is who will be the first liberal congresscritter
>>>>> to stick his/her fat nose into this and demand regulation?
>>>>
>>>> Regulation by whom?
>>>
>>> Take a wild freaking guess.
>>
>> No one country can effectively regulate activities in international waters.
>> They can basically just regulate who steams into their territorial waters:
>>
>> [quote]
>> Is there a body that regulates the submersible industry?
>>
>> Submersibles don’t fall under international law like oceangoing ships do where
>> you have to be flagged in a nation and then you have to be inspected by both the
>> nation you’re flagged by and the nations you sail into. To insure a vessel,
>> you would
>> usually have a third-party classification society, an entity like the American
>> Bureau of
>> Shipping, come onboard and make sure you’re following all the rules as they’re
>> laid out.
>>
>> Submersibles are different because they don’t sail in and out of ports.
>> They’re carried,
>> so most submersible rules are local rules. For example, in the U.S. there are
>> specific rules
>> for operating submersibles in and out of U.S. ports and in U.S. waters. The
>> catch with
>> OceanGate and the Titan was they were basically operating outside territorial
>> waters —
>> they’re past the 12-mile limit, and they’re launching off a Canadian vessel.
>> There didn’t
>> appear to really be any sort of jurisdictions applying to this vessel. They’re
>> not breaking
>> the laws, but they’re operating in a very gray area.
>> [/quote]
>>
>> <
>> https://www.curbed.com/2023/06/oceangate-titan-submarine-unregulated-tourism.html>
>>
>> -hh
>
>
> Congress already passed legislation a few years ago requiring NOAA to approve
> expeditions that could potentially disturb the Titanic’s wreck site.
That is *bullshit*, scooter. NOAA has no regulatory authority over an
expedition setting sail from a foreign country, and it has no regulatory
authority *whatever* over any vessels used, including submersibles, on an
expedition setting sail from the U.S.
Since the discovery of the Titanic wreck site in 1985, executive branch
agencies have been involved in protecting and preserving the site, from
participating in exploration and scientific expeditions to negotiating the
International Agreement. Following the enactment of Section 113, the United
States deposited its instrument of acceptance for the International
Agreement, which entered into force between the United States and the United
Kingdom on November 18, 2019.
Consistent with the Titanic Memorial Act, NOAA developed Guidelines for
Research, Exploration and Salvage of RMS Titanic (NOAA Guidelines) in 2001,
in consultation with the United Kingdom, France, Canada, and other interested
countries. 66 Fed. Reg. 18905 (April 12, 2001). These legally non-binding
guidelines set standards for research, exploration and salvage activities at
the wreck site and are consistent with the Rules Concerning Activities Aimed
at the RMS Titanic and/or its Artifacts, which are annexed to the
International Agreement (Annex Rules).
The Secretary of Commerce has delegated most Secretarial authority under
Section 113 to NOAA. 84 Fed. Reg. 38012(Aug. 5, 2019). Therefore, any person
subject to U.S. jurisdiction proposing to conduct research, exploration,
salvage, or other activity that would physically alter or disturb the wreck
or wreck site of Titanic must obtain a project authorization from NOAA in
advance of such activities. NOAA evaluates requests for Section 113
authorization to determine if the proposed project will comply with Section
113, and, in doing so, NOAA reviews the International Agreement, including
the Agreement’s Annex Rules, and the NOAA Guidelines. Additional information
regarding NOAA’s implementation of Section 113 is available in the Titanic
Authorizations FAQ.
NOAA also participates on behalf of the United States, and to preserve and
protect the public interest in the Titanic, in proceedings before the U.S.
District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, which oversees
activities of the current salvor-in-possession of Titanic, R.M.S. Titanic,
Inc. R.M.S. Titanic, Inc. v. The Wrecked & Abandoned Vessel, 531 F. Supp. 2d
691, offsite link693 (E.D. Va. 2007).
https://www.noaa.gov/gc-international-section/rms-titanic-frequently-asked-questions
There is *nothing* in any part of that giving NOAA or any other federal agency
regulatory authority over the submersibles. Fuck off, you priest-fucked lying
shitbag.
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