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Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed

From Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn>
Newsgroups alt.checkmate, alt.philosophy.checkmate, sci.physics, talk.politics.guns
Subject Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed
Date 2018-12-16 22:19 -0800
Organization Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com
Message-ID <MPG.3680dfbe6c39a73a995b4e@news.altopia.com> (permalink)
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Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <08adnW5KEOyFJovBnZ2dnUU7-
audnZ2d@scnresearch.com>, pandora@peak.org says...


LeBork
LeBorkOn Sun, 16 Dec 2018 12:27:29 -0800, Checkmate wrote:
LeBork
LeBork> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
LeBork> Checkmate!  In article <pv5c7k$1rfb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01
LeBork> @gmail.nospam.invalid says...
LeBork> 
LeBork> 
LeBork> LeBork LeBorkOn 12/16/2018 3:15 AM, Checkmate wrote:
LeBork> LeBork> Except that 99.87% of what you just dragged into the
LeBork> conversation LeBork> deserves non sequitur status when you try to
LeBork> connect it with a squad of LeBork> ko0ks coming to some highly
LeBork> speculative and probably erroneous LeBork> conclusions as to whether
LeBork> there really IS such a thing as "right-handed LeBork> sharks," or
LeBork> whether (if there is) it has anything to do with global LeBork> warming,
LeBork> or is of any consequence regardless.  This is what's commonly LeBork>
LeBork> referred to as "junk science".  You simply can't draw any viable LeBork>
LeBork> conclusions from such sloppy "science," if the word science even belongs
LeBork> LeBork> anywhere in this conversation.
LeBork> LeBork LeBorkNo, actually, Nadegda is 100% correct. It is a warning that
LeBork> we need to LeBorkexpect the unexpected here. Climate change will have
LeBork> consequences far LeBorkbeyond a slightly higher reading on a
LeBork> thermometer. Some of those LeBorkconsequences will be bizarre and some
LeBork> of them will be deadly.
LeBork> 
LeBork> That much may very well be true, as it always has been in the past.  The
LeBork> climate is going to do what the climate's going to do, and we're
LeBork> powerless to alter that to suit our perceived convenience.  Far more
LeBork> drastic changes have occurred in the past... without our influence, and
LeBork> far more drastic changes will occur in the future.
LeBork> 
LeBork> We don't live in a static world, but we've always found ways to survive
LeBork> in a changing world.  As I've said all along, even if it could be
LeBork> established that we have changed the climate, and that we theoretically
LeBork> had the power to "change it back" to something more to our liking, we
LeBork> would STILL never do it due to the catastrophic effects of the socio-
LeBork> economical sacrifices it would take to accomplish such a feat.
LeBork> 
LeBork> The real problem, if you choose to call any of this a problem, is that
LeBork> there are far too many humans populating the world, and all those people
LeBork> need to eat, stay within a reasonably comfortable living environment,
LeBork> and find some sort of employment or way to contribute to society.  If we
LeBork> were to suddenly cut the population in half, our consumer-driven economy
LeBork> would collapse, causing much more serious repercussions than a slight
LeBork> variation in global temperatures.
LeBork> 
LeBork> I believe there was a link somewhere above referring to the adverse
LeBork> effects that occurred in Yellowstone when all the wolves were removed.
LeBork> I'm familiar with the story.  Grazing herds grew without any apex
LeBork> predators to control them, vegetation was "destroyed," and the grazing
LeBork> animals overpopulated and ultimately went hungry.  In a sense, humans
LeBork> have put themselves in the same position through medical advancements,
LeBork> and the discovery and use of fossil fuels, which led to the Industrial
LeBork> Age.
LeBork> 
LeBork> Humans have kept their wolves at bay, and nothing will fix that until
LeBork> nature decides to step in and cull the human herds.  We can't fix our
LeBork> problems on our own any more than the herds of deer in Yellowstone were
LeBork> able to fix theirs.  That's because it takes sacrifices that we as a
LeBork> species are inherently unwilling and unable to fix on our own.  Trust in
LeBork> nature.  It isn't always nice, but long-term, it's been proven to always
LeBork> work.
LeBork
LeBorkExtremely well said.  Humans have always changed and adapted to fit their 
LeBorkenvironment.  We may be able to continue doing so or perhaps not.  It all 
LeBorkdepends on how much it changes and how fast.  

It's always been that way, no reason to suddenly think we can make it 
otherwise.

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Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-15 05:15 -0500
  Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-15 08:18 -0500
  Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Lamey <teandson@gmail.com> - 2018-12-15 09:34 -0800
    Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-15 12:49 -0500
      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-12-15 10:38 -0800
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          Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-12-15 11:03 -0800
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed % <%> - 2018-12-15 12:16 -0700
          Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 12:57 -0800
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-12-16 16:15 -0600
              Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-12-17 10:47 -0600
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-17 11:54 -0500
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-12-17 11:43 -0600
      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-15 17:51 -0800
      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Greysat <hrumme4224@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 11:13 -0700
        Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed roach <roach4994@gmail.com> - 2018-12-17 10:24 -0800
    Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 12:31 -0800
      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed % <%> - 2018-12-16 13:32 -0700
  Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-15 10:10 -0800
    Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-12-15 18:49 -0500
      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-16 09:46 -0600
    Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-16 06:30 +0000
      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 00:15 -0800
        Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-16 06:17 -0500
          Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 08:40 -0500
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 09:51 -0500
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 10:06 -0800
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-17 10:19 -0600
              Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-18 07:42 -0500
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 08:26 -0500
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-18 09:48 -0500
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-18 09:33 -0600
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-18 09:29 -0600
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-18 14:16 -0700
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-18 21:35 +0000
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-18 15:03 -0700
          Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 08:50 -0500
          Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-16 08:33 -0700
          Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 12:27 -0800
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 15:38 -0500
              Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 20:04 -0800
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-12-16 14:52 -0600
              Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 15:59 -0500
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed invalid@invalid.invalid (Ï) - 2018-12-16 21:11 +0000
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 16:29 -0500
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed tripeco.2@parody.personae.invalid (Tr!pe) - 2018-12-16 21:56 +0000
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-17 03:44 +0000
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-17 10:42 -0500
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                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 20:08 -0800
              Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 22:19 -0800
            Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-17 05:28 -0500
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      Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 08:39 -0500
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                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 08:52 -0500
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                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-15 17:09 -0700
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-15 17:55 -0800
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-15 19:05 -0700
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2018-12-15 20:08 -0600
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-16 06:34 +0000
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-16 00:16 -0800
                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed % <%> - 2018-12-15 15:51 -0700
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                Re: Climate Change Is Making Sharks Right-Handed "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-16 08:56 -0500
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