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Re: XLibre in Debian

From Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: XLibre in Debian
Date 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
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On Thursday, October 2, 2025 2:42:47 PM Mountain Standard Time Andrew M.A. 
Cater wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:24:48PM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 2, 2025 11:03:07 AM Mountain Standard Time Antoine Le
> > 
> > Gonidec wrote:
> > > Le Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:07:43PM +0000, Wojciech Lipinski a écrit :
> > > > I would like to ask if there are any plans to include XLibre (fork of
> > > > X11)
> > > > in Debian. (…)
> > > 
> > > I strongly oppose the inclusion of XLibre or any related tool in Debian.
> > > Or, for what it’s worth, the inclusion of anything developed by that 
team.
> > 
> > Not knowing anything about XLibre or the team that develops it, I am 
curious
> > to know what would cause you to be so opposed to anything developed by 
that
> > team.  Indeed, I am not accustomed to Debian categorically rejecting
> > software
> > that is DFSG-free from inclusion based solely on the team that develops 
it.
> 
> Soren,
> 
> Other projects - including Fedora and Ubuntu - have issues with the 
stability
> of the code from a single developer. Those projects - and many individuals -
> may also disapprove of controversial political opinions from the single
> developer.
> 
> On occasion, we *do* take wider considerations into account in the Project
> before adopting DFSG-software.
> 
> All the very best, as ever,

That is true.  I certainly can imagine a scenario where Debian would ban 
contributions from a particular developer or a team of developers.  For 
example, if they had a track record of *intentionally* trying to introduce 
security vulnerabilities into Debian.

However, I an not personally aware of any of these scenarios ever arising.  
And certainly, if they did arise, I would expect there would be some 
discussion about them and such a decision would be documented somewhere.

So, as I said, I am not accustomed to Debian categorically rejecting software 
that is DFSG-free from inclusion based solely on the team that develops it.  
If there is some reason why that should apply in this case, I would very much 
like to know what it is.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org

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XLibre in Debian Wojciech Lipinski <wlipinski@posteo.net> - 2025-10-02 15:20 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 18:00 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:40 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 23:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 19:00 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 22:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:40 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-10-03 22:10 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 22:50 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 02:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2025-10-03 15:20 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 11:50 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Alex <alex@puer-robustus.eu> - 2025-10-04 16:40 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-04 23:10 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-05 11:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-09 14:20 +0200

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