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Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades

From Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel
Subject Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades
Date 2025-03-05 16:20 +0100
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Hi,

On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 04:06:56PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 20:39:43 -0500, "Helmut K. C. Tessarek"
> <tessarek@evermeet.cx> wrote:
> >Both network "outages" could have been prevented by adding a note at the 
> >end of the dist-upgrade output.
> >
> >e.g. something like the following (monospace font required for the 
> >"Attention" text):
> >
> >     _  _____ _____ _____ _   _ _____ ___ ___  _   _
> >    / \|_   _|_   _| ____| \ | |_   _|_ _/ _ \| \ | |
> >   / _ \ | |   | | |  _| |  \| | | |  | | | | |  \| |
> >  / ___ \| |   | | | |___| |\  | | |  | | |_| | |\  |
> >/_/   \_\_|   |_| |_____|_| \_| |_| |___\___/|_| \_|
> >
> >Network interface name changed: please update config files before reboot.
> 
> Why would people who do not read the NEWS.Debian or the Release Notes
> read that? And how would you solve the issue of people wanting more
> and more of those attention banners?

Presumably because it will be written directly to their terminal.

Things in NEWS.Debian or the release notes probably only can caution
users to be aware of possible problems; if we are able to detect that
there will be a problem and warn the person running the command, that
sounds sensible to me, but I have not looked at the details.


Michael

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Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 03:40 +0100
  Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> - 2025-03-05 10:30 +0100
  Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-05 16:10 +0100
    Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> - 2025-03-05 16:20 +0100
      Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2025-03-05 17:50 +0100
        Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-03-05 19:30 +0100
          Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-05 20:40 +0100
            Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-03-05 21:00 +0100
          Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 20:40 +0100
          Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2025-03-05 21:10 +0100
            Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-05 21:40 +0100
              Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-03-05 22:30 +0100
                Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-06 09:00 +0100
            Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 21:40 +0100
      Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 20:40 +0100
        Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-06 10:10 +0100
    Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-06 15:50 +0100
    Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2025-03-07 01:50 +0100
  Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2025-03-06 06:50 +0100
    Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-07 00:10 +0100
  Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-03-06 09:50 +0100
    Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> - 2025-03-06 11:30 +0100
    Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2025-03-06 15:20 +0100
      Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-03-06 17:40 +0100
      Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2025-03-06 18:00 +0100
      Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-07 00:00 +0100
        Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-07 00:20 +0100

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