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| From | "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.devel |
| Subject | Improvement of headless server upgrades |
| Date | 2025-03-05 03:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <KmMPT-3GDg-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
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This is my first mail in a Debian mailing list and I hope I've chosen
the correct one. There are way too many lists thus please direct me to
the correct one, in case I messed up.
I would like to make a suggestion for release upgrades. It should not be
a huge effort to implement and I can work with someone to make this happen.
In the last few days I ran into a serious issue when upgrading to newer
releases on 3 headless servers: the network connection went dead.
In the first situation the interface name changed from eth0 to end0 and
after the reboot my adapter got a link-local address.
In the second situation dhcpcd was replaced by Network Manager and once
again the network was dead.
Please don't get me wrong, I am not against keeping up with the times
and use new technology. Far from it.
But in both cases I had to connect my headless machines to a monitor and
keyboard and fix the network issues. Usually this is not a problem, but
sometimes it might be impossible.
In both cases I did not even know that these things would happen. The
dist-upgrade made the changes without my input and I was left in the
dark. Iamgine my surprise when I couldn't connect to my boxes anymore.
Both network "outages" could have been prevented by adding a note at the
end of the dist-upgrade output.
e.g. something like the following (monospace font required for the
"Attention" text):
_ _____ _____ _____ _ _ _____ ___ ___ _ _
/ \|_ _|_ _| ____| \ | |_ _|_ _/ _ \| \ | |
/ _ \ | | | | | _| | \| | | | | | | | | \| |
/ ___ \| | | | | |___| |\ | | | | | |_| | |\ |
/_/ \_\_| |_| |_____|_| \_| |_| |___\___/|_| \_|
Network interface name changed: please update config files before reboot.
_ _____ _____ _____ _ _ _____ ___ ___ _ _
/ \|_ _|_ _| ____| \ | |_ _|_ _/ _ \| \ | |
/ _ \ | | | | | _| | \| | | | | | | | | \| |
/ ___ \| | | | | |___| |\ | | | | | |_| | |\ |
/_/ \_\_| |_| |_____|_| \_| |_| |___\___/|_| \_|
Network subsystem changed: please add a system connection before reboot.
Is this something that makes sense? Often you have a remote console like
an iLO or whatever cloud systems provide. But in some cases there is
nothing. No console, no monitor, no keyboard. Only a power and a network
cable.
Cheers,
K. C.
P.S.: I go by KC, trying to avoid the Spaceballs Dark Helmet mixup.
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regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek KeyID 0x172380A011EF4944
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Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 03:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> - 2025-03-05 10:30 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-05 16:10 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> - 2025-03-05 16:20 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2025-03-05 17:50 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-03-05 19:30 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-05 20:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-03-05 21:00 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 20:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2025-03-05 21:10 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-05 21:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2025-03-05 22:30 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-06 09:00 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 21:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-05 20:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-06 10:10 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-03-06 15:50 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2025-03-07 01:50 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2025-03-06 06:50 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-07 00:10 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2025-03-06 09:50 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Fabio Fantoni <fantonifabio@tiscali.it> - 2025-03-06 11:30 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> - 2025-03-06 15:20 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-03-06 17:40 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2025-03-06 18:00 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-07 00:00 +0100
Re: Improvement of headless server upgrades "Helmut K. C. Tessarek" <tessarek@evermeet.cx> - 2025-03-07 00:20 +0100
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