Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models

From	Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models
Date	2025-05-05 22:20 +0200
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On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 2:49 PM Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> wrote:
> On 5/5/25 11:44, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
> >> It is too rush to start to vote for this within 3 weeks
> >
> > Does this maybe sound like the GR call was premature?
> > The project consensus, especially after
> > https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_003, seems to say that we don't
> > want multi-month GR discussions.
> >
>
> Not quite. Proposal A is mature and I'm confident in it.
> Potential proposal B,C,D,... are premature.
> I have no intention to let people holding different opinions
> to have a very short time to prepare a formal proposal B,C,D.
>
> But, the whole series of discussions started 7 years ago.
> And I have already mailed everywhere about my intention
> to submit the GR. If there is no proposal B, that could mean
> it is really difficult to formally write a proposal B.
>
> I lean towards going ahead.

I don't believe we have enough information to do the GR now (or one
week from today, the longest we can delay). I am unclear on whether
existing packages in Debian are affected. Your proposal does not
indicate whether the GR would be effective immediately.

My suggestion is for you to ask the DPL to extend the discussion
period by a week (for constitutional reasons) followed by an immediate
withdrawal of the GR. Withdrawing the GR allows you to resubmit later
and wait 2-3 weeks from that point.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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  Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence  (AI) Models Steven Robbins <steve@sumost.ca> - 2025-05-05 04:40 +0200
  Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 08:00 +0200
    Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 17:20 +0200
      Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 17:50 +0200
        Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 20:50 +0200
          Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2025-05-05 22:20 +0200
            discussion extension (was: Re: General Resolution: Interpretation  of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models "M. Zhou" <lumin@debian.org> - 2025-05-06 00:30 +0200
              Re: discussion extension (was: Re: General Resolution:  Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial Intelligence (AI) Models Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2025-05-06 08:00 +0200
      Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 18:10 +0200
      Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 18:30 +0200
        Re: General Resolution: Interpretation of DFSG on Artificial  Intelligence (AI) Models Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2025-05-05 18:30 +0200

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