Re: ifupdown maintenance

From	Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject	Re: ifupdown maintenance
Date	2024-09-14 07:50 +0200
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la 14. syysk. 2024 klo 1.17 Santiago Ruano Rincón
(santiagorr@riseup.net) kirjoitti:
>
> Adding team+networking@tracker.debian.org to the loop.
>
> El 13/09/24 a las 12:31, Martin-Éric Racine escribió:
> > pe 13. syysk. 2024 klo 12.16 Sean Whitton (spwhitton@spwhitton.name) kirjoitti:
> > > Hello Santiago,
> > >
> > > What are your current intentions in this area?  Do you want to make the
> > > change for trixie?  If not, I'd like to close the override change bug
> > > for now.  Thanks.
> >
> > I am wondering the same. However, neither Santiago or Josue have
> > followed up on this and other pending ifupdown issues that I have
> > brought up. Santiago already indicated elsewhere that his spare time
> > is sparse, which might explain why, but Josue is essentially MIA.
> >
> > Personally, I'm ready to raise the Priority of dhcpcd-base to
> > important, to match the override, ...
>
> Regarding this particular issue, I have said somewhere that I preferred
> to sync the override with the Recommends update in ifupdown. So Sean, if
> you are willing to apply the override, we can go ahead with the
> ifupdown-related change.

Let's start with changing the ifupdown dependencies and DHCP stack
search order to effectively deprecate ISC.

If Sean agrees with the override, we can do that one separately. It's
just a one word change in 2 packages' control file.

> However, keep in mind that there is a current discussion about what will
> be the default networking stack for trixie.

Where? I haven't seen any discussion about this in a while. All I saw
was netplan, systemd and network-manager maintainers each pushing for
their package to become the default.

Martin-Éric

Thread

Re: ifupdown maintenance Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-07-07 16:20 +0200
  Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-07-07 17:30 +0200
    Re: ifupdown maintenance Santiago Ruano Rincón <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2024-07-08 17:30 +0200
      Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-07-08 20:20 +0200
      Re: ifupdown maintenance Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-07-09 11:30 +0200
        Re: ifupdown maintenance Santiago Ruano Rincón <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2024-07-11 14:10 +0200
      Re: ifupdown maintenance Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-09-13 11:20 +0200
        Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-09-13 12:00 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Santiago Ruano Rincón <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2024-09-14 00:20 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-09-14 07:50 +0200
              Replacing isc-dhcp-client with dhcpcd-base (Was: ifupdown  maintenance) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-09-14 14:40 +0200
                Re: Replacing isc-dhcp-client with dhcpcd-base (Was: ifupdown  maintenance) Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-09-14 20:20 +0200
                Re: Replacing isc-dhcp-client with dhcpcd-base (Was: ifupdown maintenance) "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@debian.org> - 2024-09-15 17:40 +0200
                Re: Replacing isc-dhcp-client with dhcpcd-base (Was: ifupdown  maintenance) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-09-23 16:00 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-09-15 19:00 +0200
  Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-07-09 08:50 +0200
    Re: ifupdown maintenance Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-09 10:10 +0200
      Re: ifupdown maintenance Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2024-07-09 12:00 +0200
        Re: default network management tools (was: ifupdown maintenance) Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 12:50 +0200
          Re: default network management tools (was: ifupdown maintenance) Bernd Zeimetz <bernd@bzed.de> - 2024-07-10 18:40 +0200
            Re: default network management tools (was: ifupdown maintenance) Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-07-11 08:20 +0200
              Re: default network management tools Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2024-07-11 12:00 +0200
                Re: default network management tools Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-11 13:50 +0200
                Re: default network management tools Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-07-11 14:20 +0200
            Re: default network management tools Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-11 11:20 +0200
          Re: default network management tools (was: ifupdown maintenance) Santiago Ruano Rincón <santiagorr@riseup.net> - 2024-07-11 14:20 +0200
        Re: ifupdown maintenance Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2024-07-09 13:00 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 13:40 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2024-07-09 20:30 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2024-07-09 22:20 +0200
              Re: ifupdown maintenance Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-09 22:40 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@rootsland.net> - 2024-07-11 11:40 +0200
        Re: ifupdown maintenance Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 15:50 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 16:10 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 22:00 +0200
              Re: ifupdown maintenance Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-09 22:40 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2024-07-10 22:20 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2024-07-10 23:20 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-07-11 08:20 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Jose Luis Tallon <jltallon@adv-solutions.net> - 2024-07-11 16:40 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2024-07-11 08:50 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance "Andrej Shadura" <andrew@shadura.me> - 2024-07-12 13:40 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-11 11:30 +0200
                Re: ifupdown maintenance Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2024-07-11 14:30 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2024-07-09 16:30 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 19:10 +0200
              what about Netplan? Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2024-07-11 09:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-11 11:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 03:00 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 23:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-11 11:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-11 13:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-13 21:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-14 11:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-14 14:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2024-07-14 21:10 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 00:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2024-07-14 18:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2024-07-14 20:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 00:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 03:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 15:40 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Marvin Renich <mrvn@renich.org> - 2024-07-15 16:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 16:40 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Marvin Renich <mrvn@renich.org> - 2024-07-16 15:40 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 16:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 01:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 02:00 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? thomas@goirand.fr - 2024-07-16 01:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-07-16 08:10 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 11:00 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? thomas@goirand.fr - 2024-07-16 11:10 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 12:50 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Jose Luis Tallon <jltallon@adv-solutions.net> - 2024-07-16 11:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 12:40 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@rootsland.net> - 2024-07-16 11:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 12:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 13:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@rootsland.net> - 2024-07-16 14:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2024-07-16 13:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 15:10 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2024-07-16 15:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 15:30 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2024-07-16 18:40 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Matthias Urlichs <matthias@urlichs.de> - 2024-07-17 09:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Arne Pisch <old_man999@freenet.de> - 2024-07-20 08:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <luca.boccassi@gmail.com> - 2024-07-16 15:40 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 16:00 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Lukas Märdian <slyon@debian.org> - 2024-07-15 16:20 +0200
                Size measuring contest (Was: what about Netplan?) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-07-16 15:50 +0200
                Re: Size measuring contest (Was: what about Netplan?) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 16:20 +0200
                Re: what about Netplan? Guus Sliepen <guus@debian.org> - 2024-07-16 09:30 +0200
              Re: ifupdown maintenance Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2024-07-13 17:40 +0200
        Re: ifupdown maintenance Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-09-16 05:10 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-09-16 10:30 +0200
    Re: ifupdown maintenance Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-07-09 11:00 +0200
      Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-07-09 13:50 +0200
        Re: ifupdown maintenance Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2024-07-09 14:20 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Martin-Éric Racine <martin-eric.racine@iki.fi> - 2024-07-11 10:40 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Jose Luis Tallon <jltallon@adv-solutions.net> - 2024-07-11 16:40 +0200
          Re: ifupdown maintenance Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-09-16 05:10 +0200
            Re: ifupdown maintenance Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2024-09-16 10:10 +0200
              Re: ifupdown maintenance Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-09-17 05:20 +0200
  Re: ifupdown maintenance Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-07-11 11:20 +0200

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