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Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts

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On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 11:14:41PM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 12:30:22PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > At 2024-08-15T13:20:02-0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > It's just so depressing that this is how debian works now. We used to
> > > try to not break things, now the answer is "you should have read the
> > > NEWS, and known that unrelated packages were going to break, and
> > > reconfigured standard debian network tools to add non-default
> > > timeouts". All because the aesthetic preference for not having the
> > > same binary appear in two different paths is a higher priority than
> > > keeping systems working.
> > 
> > "Move fast and break as much stuff as possible, or Debian will be doomed
> > to irrelevance.  I'll be SABDFL someday!"
> > 
> > The creed of the _impactful_ developer.
> 
> It looks like a pretty pointless change - breaks several scripts for example.
> It was/is common to assume /sbin/ip to be present and usable.
> Michael's bug report does make sense to me. Such a change is even causing
> systems to not bootup.

On 2024-07-14 (five days before the iproute2 change was made), there was
this conversation on #debian-devel:

  19:14 <petn-randall> Is there a reason why iproute2 ships a symlink
  from /sbin/ip to /bin/ip? I've looked into the packaging repo and it
  seems to predate the git log.
  ...
  19:52 <cjwatson> petn-randall:
  https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=%2Fsbin%2Fip%5Cb&literal=0 has
  a pretty non-trivial list of things that would need fixed before
  removing that (and of course some false positives)

I realize it wasn't petn-randall who made this change, but it seems a
big coincidence that the symlink was dropped a few days after this IRC
conversation; and yet it seems nobody bothered to do the most basic due
diligence that I pointed out here, which is kind of sad.  (I fixed
wireless-tools after this change caused an RC bug there.)

-- 
Colin Watson (he/him)                              [cjwatson@debian.org]

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Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-08-14 21:40 +0200
  Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-15 19:40 +0200
    Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-08-15 19:50 +0200
      Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-08-16 00:30 +0200
        Bug#1064795: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-08-22 02:20 +0200

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