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Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts

From Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.devel
Subject Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts
Date 2024-08-15 19:50 +0200
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On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 12:30:22PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2024-08-15T13:20:02-0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > This change was noted in NEWS.
> > > 
> > > I would suggest hooking your config into something that uses the
> > > network-online.target target, with a timeout like network-manager
> > > and networkd do, so that the boot process doesn't hang. If it's a
> > > simple unit, it's enough to add RuntimeMaxSec= to it, so that it's
> > > killed if it doesn't work within the configured timeout.
> > 
> > It's just so depressing that this is how debian works now. We used to
> > try to not break things, now the answer is "you should have read the
> > NEWS, and known that unrelated packages were going to break, and
> > reconfigured standard debian network tools to add non-default
> > timeouts". All because the aesthetic preference for not having the
> > same binary appear in two different paths is a higher priority than
> > keeping systems working.
> 
> "Move fast and break as much stuff as possible, or Debian will be doomed
> to irrelevance.  I'll be SABDFL someday!"
> 
> The creed of the _impactful_ developer.

It looks like a pretty pointless change - breaks several scripts for example.
It was/is common to assume /sbin/ip to be present and usable.
Michael's bug report does make sense to me. Such a change is even causing
systems to not bootup.

Best,
Nilesh

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Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-08-14 21:40 +0200
  Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2024-08-15 19:40 +0200
    Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-08-15 19:50 +0200
      Bug#1078721: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-08-16 00:30 +0200
        Bug#1064795: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-08-22 02:20 +0200

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