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Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

From gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode
Date 2024-11-25 18:20 +0100
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On 11/24/24 12:06, Hans wrote:
> Hello Alexander,
> 
> thank you very much for your response.
> 
>> Short answer: Not usable.
> 
> Hmm, that is a pity.
> 
>> Long answer:
>> As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions.

+100 or more.

I bought a voron trident, $1300 + ship, 3 years ago? Carton all smashed 
to hell but no empty pockets for parts. Did not say 'kit" anyplace in 
description. Got all the major hardware, but only 25% of the plastic, 
getting the printable files was always missing about half, after 6 
months they quit responding so I gave up, it may at some point be a 
printer but it will be me designing and subbing good parts if and when 
using their frame and bed. Depends on whether I find a need for a 
printer that small.

>> You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website or
>> websites of other vendors.Seller claims this device has N100 CPU [1],
>> but in Characteristics section it is actually J4115 [2].
> Does this mean, in real this is not an Intel CPU? I saw these notebooks from
> several different sellers, and all are telling the same. Do they all lie? (Well
> it might be possible)
> 
> 
>> So which is it?
>> Display resolution 1280*800 means it couldn't be used comfortably by
>> today's UI standards and is not significantly better than screen of your
>> smartphone.
> Yes, but this would be ok for me. My old fellow, an Asus EEEPC 1008 has got
> 1024x600 which was ok for me. But now over the years, it got rather slow and
> it is 32-bit, too. So I am looking for a successor. For basic network analysis
> I could use a tablet (which I am also using) with "termux" and a bluetotth
> keyboard.
> 
> But I would like to use an Inetl compatible cpu, as all my wanted stuff is
> running on this.  And it shall  be small. 13 inch and bigger I already own, so
> these small things awoke my attention.
> 
>> Notice how none of the reviewers made a photo or screenshot of actual
>> hardware specifications detected by OS. More reasons to not trust device
>> descriptions or reviews.
> Yes, I see.
> 
>> There is not a single actual photo of the product, in the description
>> section, only 3D modeled edited pictures.
>> When order is disputed, AliExpress arbitration service will consider
>> Characteristics as primary source for specifications, so it will be
>> customer's fault in the end and refund could be denied.
>> In conclusion: It is a *very* overpriced toy, not a device you could
>> accomplish any complex work.
>>
> 
> Hmm, overpriced, you say. Do you mean, "overpriced" even when the the tellings
> are true (CPU, RAM-size, hardrive-size and so on)?
>   
>> If I was in the market for a new "work horse" laptop, I'd search for one
>> with at least 14" screen size, with display height resolution of 1080p
>> or more.
> Hmm, well, here in Germany is a very good reseller for "normal" notebooks. I
> can get a 12 inch Dell notebook with 8GB RAM and a 512GB drive for under 100
> Bucks (about 99 €uro). This with 2 year guarantee. The notebook is of cource
> refurbished. I know this seller for many years and he can be trusted and has a
> well service. If I do not find a smaller notebook for about 300 €, I will buy
> this one.
> 
> It is a pity, my hope was another statement than yours.
> 
> However, thank you very much for your help and the time you took! It helped a
> lot!
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> .


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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  Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode rhkramer@gmail.com - 2024-11-23 21:50 +0100
    Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-11-24 00:20 +0100
      Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-11-24 00:40 +0100
        Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode rhkramer@gmail.com - 2024-11-24 15:20 +0100
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        Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-11-24 17:50 +0100
          Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-11-24 23:10 +0100
            Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-11-25 04:30 +0100
  Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2024-11-23 22:00 +0100
    Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode rhkramer@gmail.com - 2024-11-24 18:40 +0100
      Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2024-11-24 18:50 +0100
  Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-11-23 22:20 +0100
  Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-11-23 23:10 +0100
    Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2024-11-24 10:00 +0100
      Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-11-24 10:20 +0100
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    Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode rhkramer@gmail.com - 2024-11-24 18:30 +0100
      Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-11-24 22:20 +0100
  Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-11-24 10:30 +0100
    Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 12:40 +0100
      Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-11-24 18:10 +0100
        Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 14:30 +0100
        Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-11-25 18:20 +0100
    Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-11-24 17:40 +0100

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