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Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue

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On 2024-02-26 22:47, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Gremlin wrote:
>> On 2/26/24 20:28, Gary Dale wrote:
>>>>>>> $locale
>>>>>>> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such
>>>>>>> file or directory
>>>>>>> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No
>>>>>>> such file or directory
>>>>>>> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
>>>>>>> LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LANGUAGE=en_GB
>>>>>>> LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_ALL=
>>> $locale -a
>>> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
>>> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
>>> C
>>> C.utf8
>>> en_CA.utf8
>>> en_US.utf8
>>> fr_CA.utf8
>>> POSIX
>>>
>>>
>> Find out where LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES is being set, they need changed.
> No, you're not reading it correctly.  Look at LANG.  Look at the double
> quotes around LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES (among others).  LC_CTYPE and
> LC_MESSAGES are *not* set.  They are deduced from LANG.
>
> It's LANG that has the weird setting.  All of the other iu_CA entries
> are double-quoted, so they are derived from it.
>
>> If it was me, I would set /etc/default/locale to
>> #  File generated by update-locale
>> LANG=C.UTF-8
>>
>> and remove all references/assignments to any LC_<what ever> in all shell
>> config files.
>>
>> then reboot and do a locale -a
> Rebooting doesn't do anything useful here.  Simply logging out and back
> in would be sufficient.
>
> But there are two points of view here:
>
> 1) Why is Gary using locales that are not generated?
>
> 2) Why is Gary using *these specific* locales?
>
> I think you're approaching it from the point of view of "your settings
> are wrong, but you don't know where the settings are coming from, so
> find out, and fix them".  Which is one valid POV.
>
> Another valid POV is "the settings are set the way Gary wants them, but
> the locales aren't generated, so generate them, and then it'll work".
>
> Only Gary can tell us which of these is the right approach.  Maybe he's
> a fluent Inuktitut speaker.  All I can say is that it's hard to believe
> that someone would *accidentally* have LANG set to iu_CA.UTF-8.  Usually
> that's the kind of thing one would remember doing.

The only unusual thing I've done was trying to set the locale to en_CA 
rather than en_US. However my installation dates back a long time and 
Linux has changed a lot over the years. At one point, I believe support 
for Canadian English was spotty so I had a en_GB locale added. The iu_CA 
is weird and seems to vanish when I set the default locale to C.

But no, I've never gone beyond

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running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-26 20:40 +0100
  Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-26 22:10 +0100
    Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-26 23:20 +0100
      Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-26 23:40 +0100
        Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 02:40 +0100
          Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-27 02:50 +0100
            Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 14:50 +0100
              Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-27 15:00 +0100
          Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-27 03:40 +0100
            Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 15:00 +0100
              Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-27 16:10 +0100
          Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-27 04:20 +0100
            Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-27 05:00 +0100
              Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-27 11:50 +0100
              Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 16:00 +0100
              Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 16:00 +0100
            Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2024-02-27 15:50 +0100

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