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Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot

From Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot
Date 2023-10-04 17:20 +0200
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On 03/10/2023 01:34, Valerio Vanni wrote:
> Il 02/10/2023 18:45, Max Nikulin ha scritto:

>>> But neither Asus (bios from start of September) nor Microsoft 
>>> (Windows 11) do that blacklisting.
>>
>> Do you mean Windows install on hard drive or Windows install image?
should be "installed"---------^
> 
> Machine comes with Windows 10 pre installed, and then it's updated from 
> Windows update. Then I installed Windows 11 with upgrade assistant.
> So far, no blacklist of old Clonezilla.
> 
> Do you mean that installing Windows 10 or 11 from scratch could behave 
> differently?

I am curious if just booting a recent media published by Microsoft (not 
install, just booting till first dialog) may change secure boot keys. If 
I have got you right, Windows with all updates installed still allows to 
boot old Clonezilla.

I just have spotted in the news
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2023-4692
"Crafted file system images can cause heap-based buffer overflow and may 
allow arbitrary code execution and secure boot bypass"

and a related link

https://github.com/rhboot/shim/blob/main/SBAT.md
Secure Boot Advanced Targeting

>> If firmware has the "EFI shell" option then you may try "bcfg boot 
>> dump -v". Unsure if it is possible to redirect output to a file.
> 
> I'll try. Is there nothing inside Linux efi tools?

Sorry, your question is unclear for me. I was trying to suggest a way to 
inspect UEFI boot variables without disturbing its state. If Linux 
images may do something with secure boot keys then I see the following 
alternatives:
- Firmware may have EFI shell boot option included
- Perhaps there are some tools for Windows

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Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-09-28 11:50 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 05:50 +0200
    Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-09-30 16:00 +0200
      Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-02 18:50 +0200
        Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-10-02 20:40 +0200
          Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-04 17:20 +0200
            Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-10-04 23:10 +0200
              Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-05 17:30 +0200
            Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-10-11 03:50 +0200
              Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-11 04:20 +0200
                Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-10-11 17:10 +0200

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