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On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot]

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot]
Date 2023-09-29 12:20 +0200
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On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 10:50:37AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Stefan wrote:
> >> With outdated keys secure boot does not protect you.
> >
> >Just to clarify: in 99.99% of the cases, SecureBoot does not protect you
> >(and is not designed to protect you either).
> 
> Sigh. Lose the misinformation crap, please. It's getting tedious.

He-said-she-said.

JFTR. I don't know about the exact number, but I tend to agree with
Stefan here. But since we aren't exchanging arguments but just ready
made conclusions, the discussion doesn't lead anywhere.

One thing we can agree, though, may be that secure boot gives more
control of the platform to the hardware maker (who, after all is
the one choosing the TPM and the firmware going in and around there).

Whether the hardware maker is your ally, Microsoft's ally or Google's
ally (or Netflix or who-the-devil-knows) is another long and winding
discussion. I tend to think that Microsoft is higher up that list
than you & me.

Cheers
-- 
t

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Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-09-28 01:00 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 05:10 +0200
    Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-09-28 16:20 +0200
      Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-09-29 12:00 +0200
        On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting secure  boot] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-09-29 12:20 +0200
          Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting  secure boot] Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 12:30 +0200
          Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting  secure boot] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-09-29 18:50 +0200
            Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting  secure boot] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-09-30 09:30 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-09-29 13:00 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-03 04:10 +0200
    Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-10-03 12:20 +0200
      Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-04 19:20 +0200

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