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Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot]

From Curt <curty@free.fr>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot]
Date 2023-09-29 18:50 +0200
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On 2023-09-29, <tomas@tuxteam.de> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 10:50:37AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Stefan wrote:
>> >> With outdated keys secure boot does not protect you.
>> >
>> >Just to clarify: in 99.99% of the cases, SecureBoot does not protect you
>> >(and is not designed to protect you either).

>> Sigh. Lose the misinformation crap, please. It's getting tedious.

> He-said-she-said.
>

https://wiki.debian.org/SteveMcIntyre

 Steve McIntyre 

 Steve has been a DD since October 1996 and was Debian Project Leader from
 April 2008 to April 2010.
 He maintains quite a few packages, but is normally most active doing DebianCd
 or DebianInstaller or UEFI work. He's also an admin for this wiki!

https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Boot.3F

 What is UEFI Secure Boot NOT?

 UEFI Secure Boot is not an attempt by Microsoft to lock Linux out of the PC
 market here; SB is a security measure to protect against malware during early
 system boot. Microsoft act as a Certification Authority (CA) for SB, and they
 will sign programs on behalf of other trusted organisations so that their
 programs will also run. There are certain identification requirements that
 organisations have to meet here, and code has to be audited for safety. But
 these are not too difficult to achieve.

 SB is also not meant to lock users out of controlling their own systems. Users
 can enroll extra keys into the system, allowing them to sign programs for their
 own systems. Many SB-enabled systems also allow users to remove the
 platform-provided keys altogether, forcing the firmware to only trust
 user-signed binaries. 

Get a life (or change those wikis to reflect *your* truth)!

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Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-09-28 01:00 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-09-28 05:10 +0200
    Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-09-28 16:20 +0200
      Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-09-29 12:00 +0200
        On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting secure  boot] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-09-29 12:20 +0200
          Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting  secure boot] Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-09-29 12:30 +0200
          Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting  secure boot] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-09-29 18:50 +0200
            Re: On the uses of secure boot [was: Debian live boot corrupting  secure boot] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-09-30 09:30 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-09-29 13:00 +0200
  Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-03 04:10 +0200
    Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2023-10-03 12:20 +0200
      Re: Debian live boot corrupting secure boot Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-04 19:20 +0200

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