Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing
Date	2024-01-18 06:10 +0100
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On Tue 16 Jan 2024 at 11:47:53 (+0100), hw wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-01-15 at 20:32 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 08:08:36PM +0100, hw wrote:
> > > 
> > > I don't understand why you involve a terminal emulator in the process.
> > > Do you need to see the data that goes through the COM port displayed
> > > in a terminal (like minicom)?
> > 
> > People interact with the (remote) application by means of the terminal
> > emulator. Things get sent to/from the printer based on escape sequences
> > initiated by the application.
> 
> Desktop sharing works fine with gnome these days.  Why not interact
> with the application through that kinda locally?
> 
> > In the original (proprietary) application, the dispatching functionality
> 
> Dispatching functionality?
> 
> > is integrated in the terminal emulator, so it is understandable that
> > pheoebus phoebus wants to keep that structure in the replacement.
> 
> I don't understand.
> 
> > I proposed splitting off the "mux" functionality from the terminal
> > emulator functionality, but I fully understand that phoebus phoebus
> > favours the more "conservative" approach.
> > 
> > By the way -- back then (TM), when terminals were real things, it was
> > not unheard of that they came with an attached printer and some bar
> > code scannery -- all handily multiplexed over the RS-232 (or something
> > more monstruous), orchestrated via intricate escapery.
> > 
> > So the thing is just a natural evolution dating back to The Dinosaurs.
> 
> Well, I'd have to be quit a bit older to have experienced "real"
> terminals like that.  I do remember printers accepting some escape
> sequences to control their functionality, though.
> 
> If this application is running on such a terminal, maybe it's time to
> find a more modern und thus more feasible replacement ...  An ancient
> terminal may cease to work eventually and be very difficult to repair
> once it does ...

It isn't running on a terminal: tomas wrote "back then (TM), when
terminals were real things".

It's running on a Windows PC. Walk into many a shop and you can see
the sort of setup, a PC and screen with a barcode scanner, keyboard,
credit card reader, receipt printer, etc, all hanging off it. The
server might be in an office, or perhaps at HQ or in the cloud.
All perfectly normal. The import of the thread is Windows → Linux.

Cheers,
David.

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Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 01:40 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-12 02:00 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 14:30 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2024-01-12 07:30 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 02:00 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-01-13 03:50 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 09:50 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing Trish Fraser <trish@thefrasers.org> - 2024-01-13 10:40 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 12:10 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-13 14:00 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 15:10 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-15 20:10 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-15 20:30 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-15 21:10 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-16 11:50 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-18 06:10 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-18 12:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-18 13:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-18 15:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 02:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-21 07:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 13:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-01-21 19:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-21 11:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-22 07:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-22 16:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-22 16:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-22 16:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-22 18:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 04:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-24 18:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-23 18:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-24 17:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-24 20:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-01-26 06:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-19 03:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-21 02:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 23:20 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 23:00 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 22:20 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 21:20 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-21 07:50 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 20:00 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-01-12 12:30 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2024-01-12 13:20 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 02:30 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-13 08:40 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-13 16:10 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2024-01-13 16:50 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-13 17:00 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-13 17:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 19:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 20:00 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-13 17:20 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-13 23:50 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-14 01:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-14 14:40 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-14 06:30 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-14 08:20 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-14 11:40 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 14:50 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-12 15:00 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 17:10 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 11:20 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-15 18:20 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 23:20 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2024-01-22 14:20 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-22 15:00 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2024-01-22 15:30 +0100

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