Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing

From	hw <hw@adminart.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing
Date	2024-01-16 11:50 +0100
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On Mon, 2024-01-15 at 20:32 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 08:08:36PM +0100, hw wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I don't understand why you involve a terminal emulator in the process.
> > Do you need to see the data that goes through the COM port displayed
> > in a terminal (like minicom)?
> 
> People interact with the (remote) application by means of the terminal
> emulator. Things get sent to/from the printer based on escape sequences
> initiated by the application.

Desktop sharing works fine with gnome these days.  Why not interact
with the application through that kinda locally?

> In the original (proprietary) application, the dispatching functionality

Dispatching functionality?

> is integrated in the terminal emulator, so it is understandable that
> pheoebus phoebus wants to keep that structure in the replacement.

I don't understand.

> I proposed splitting off the "mux" functionality from the terminal
> emulator functionality, but I fully understand that phoebus phoebus
> favours the more "conservative" approach.
> 
> By the way -- back then (TM), when terminals were real things, it was
> not unheard of that they came with an attached printer and some bar
> code scannery -- all handily multiplexed over the RS-232 (or something
> more monstruous), orchestrated via intricate escapery.
> 
> So the thing is just a natural evolution dating back to The Dinosaurs.

Well, I'd have to be quit a bit older to have experienced "real"
terminals like that.  I do remember printers accepting some escape
sequences to control their functionality, though.

If this application is running on such a terminal, maybe it's time to
find a more modern und thus more feasible replacement ...  An ancient
terminal may cease to work eventually and be very difficult to repair
once it does ...

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Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 01:40 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-12 02:00 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 14:30 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2024-01-12 07:30 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 02:00 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-01-13 03:50 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 09:50 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing Trish Fraser <trish@thefrasers.org> - 2024-01-13 10:40 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 12:10 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-13 14:00 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 15:10 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-15 20:10 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-15 20:30 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-15 21:10 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-16 11:50 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-18 06:10 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-18 12:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-18 13:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-01-18 15:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 02:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-21 07:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 13:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-01-21 19:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-21 11:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-22 07:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-22 16:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-22 16:30 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-22 16:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-22 18:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 04:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-24 18:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-23 18:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-24 17:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-24 20:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2024-01-26 06:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-19 03:00 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-21 02:40 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 23:20 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 23:00 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 22:20 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 21:20 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-21 07:50 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-20 20:00 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-01-12 12:30 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2024-01-12 13:20 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-13 02:30 +0100
        Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-13 08:40 +0100
          Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-13 16:10 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2024-01-13 16:50 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-13 17:00 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-13 17:10 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 19:20 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 20:00 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-13 17:20 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-13 23:50 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-14 01:50 +0100
                Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-14 14:40 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-14 06:30 +0100
            Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-14 08:20 +0100
              Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing "tomas@tuxteam.de" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-14 11:40 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 14:50 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-12 15:00 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-12 17:10 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 11:20 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough"  Printing phoebus phoebus <frphoebus@yahoo.fr> - 2024-01-15 18:20 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 23:20 +0100
  Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2024-01-22 14:20 +0100
    Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-22 15:00 +0100
      Re: Seeking a Terminal Emulator on Debian for "Passthrough" Printing Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2024-01-22 15:30 +0100

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