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Re: OT: Pitfalls of online purchases (Was Re: Mouse single clickhandling?)

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On 12/20/23 02:48, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> On 19.12.2023 23:48, Felix Miata wrote:
>>
>> Can you suggest any particular online source in North America that sells those
>> switches? I had no success trying to refurb one in my invaluable Logitech Trackman
>> Marble FX PS/2 trackball. It took 2 hours to get that tiny switch back together
>> after disassembly and cleaning. :( A Kensington Orbit I had much better luck with
>> cleaning, so didn't need a new switch.
> I can't unfortunately.
> 
>> AliExpress is reputable? That's news to me. I ordered something from it 20 months
>> ago. There was a lot of back and forth email between us before I actually got
>> something a month later that turned out to be used rather than new, and just as
>> broken as the original part I was trying to replace. My credit card company
>> eventually issued a refund after I explained all that happened. That particular
>> card I rarely used, and hadn't for a number of months before that online purchase
>> or for several months after. 3 months or so after the refund, there were 4 cash
>> advances issued on it totaling around $8,000 on the other side of an ocean I had
>> never crossed. Those got reversed, but my credit rating dropped 100 points and
>> hasn't come near recovering.
> I share information only about my own experiences with AliExpress.
> It might be very hard to find a good and reliable store there, but at 
> least their official support and "dispute-system" are working fine.
> The important part is that you have to keep all transactions, 
> communications, chats within AliExpress platform.
> Never agree to switch to email or any other resource for conversations 
> with sellers. It's just asking to be scammed and AliExpress official 
> customer service will be unable to help you.
> I had to open disputes a few times and usually AliExpress officials 
> step-in and resolve the dispute in customer's favor, unless the dispute 
> is unreasonable and there is no evidence.
> The whole shopping experience there could be daunting, there is simply 
> too much stores and wares to choose from and their site is not helping, 
> by being difficult and slow.
> IMO it is too much of a risk to buy anything expensive there, given that 
> postal service might smash the package during delivery, but ordering 
> something like electronic components, hand tools, repair equipment, 
> spare parts, etc, should be fine.
> I had to order spare LCD screens and fragile repair equipment from 
> reputable shops a few times. All delivered without damages.
> Sometimes shops send items with a wrong part number, I had to start 
> disputes explaining the problems and return items back. All returns were 
> refunded back to my debit card.
> I've never encountered any problems with payments or refunds, and their 
> Escrow-account protection ensures that money will be released to the 
> seller only after customer has received what they ordered.
> I've heard there is a frequent "carder" and "skimmer" problem in the 
> United States [1], so those issued card advances you had might be 
> nothing to do with AliExpress, if you paid using their platform.
> Anyway, I've used many cards throughout the years to pay for goods on 
> AliExpress and never encountered any suspicious activities.
> I also extra careful when I have to reveal my card information online 
> and when I use ATMs.
> 
I can't agree with that summation. They, AFAIAC, Now OWE ME AROUND 1800 
USD.  I bought a voron trident kit thru them that came in a badly 
damaged box for about $1750 with shipping.  But it came with only 1/4th 
of the plastic parts, and the packing in the box had no empty place 
where it might have been. I yelled, eventually getting files to print 
about half of the missing plastic. In the middle of all that, aliexress, 
based on what I wasn't told, did an automatic receipt which paid the 
vender and I've received no further comm with the vendor, I bought thru 
them 3 other times and the shipments have been to a bogus address and 
returned killing 2 or 3 months to get that squared away.  So I deal with 
them only when I cannot find it on amazon. That printer I paid $1750 
for?  is assembled frame only, I'm using for a parts warehouse. 
Otherwise its classic Chinese BBLB crap.
> 
> [1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/?s=carder+skimmer
> -- 
> With kindest regards, Alexander.
> 
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