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Re: Firefox, was: Telnet

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On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, Michael Kj?rling wrote:

> On 4 Dec 2023 10:29 +0000, from debianuser@woodall.me.uk (Tim Woodall):
>> Some years ago I abandoned firefox because there was no way to override
>> one of its 'I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that' spasms.
>>
>> It's crazy that they make things like certificate pinning *impossible*
>> to override.
>
> Firefox deprecated support for HPKP in version 72 in January 2020, in
> response to their issue 1412438. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1412438
>

Yes, I know. I don't recall now if this was the last straw that broke
the camel's back but firefox adopted a habit of deciding that things
'shouldn't be done' so leave no way to say 'yes, I know what I'm doing'

IIRC they did something daft with self-signed certificates as well.

chrome based browsers aren't much better but I've yet to be hit by going
from working to not working without an intervening 'are you sure'.

Anyway, I was a netscape/mozilla devotee since the 90s, but other than
those 'never update' VMs I don't use it now. I still use lynx - although
there is less and less that works, the browser itself has never failed
to 'do its best'

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Telnet William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-12-02 17:00 +0100
  Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-02 17:10 +0100
    Re: Telnet Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-02 17:20 +0100
    Re: Telnet William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-12-02 17:40 +0100
  Re: Telnet Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-02 23:00 +0100
    Re: Telnet Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-12-03 12:10 +0100
      Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-03 17:10 +0100
        Re: Telnet Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-12-03 20:00 +0100
          Re: Telnet Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-03 20:10 +0100
            Re: Telnet Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-12-03 20:30 +0100
              Re: Telnet debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-12-03 21:30 +0100
                Re: Telnet Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2023-12-04 11:30 +0100
                Re: Telnet gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-04 12:40 +0100
                Re: Telnet debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-12-04 17:20 +0100
                Re: Telnet Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2023-12-05 11:20 +0100
            Re: Telnet Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2023-12-04 11:40 +0100
              Re: Firefox, was: Telnet Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-04 13:10 +0100
                Re: Firefox, was: Telnet Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2023-12-04 15:30 +0100
          Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 09:30 +0100
            Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-04 17:30 +0100
              Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 17:40 +0100
          Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-04 09:30 +0100
            Re: Telnet Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-12-04 17:30 +0100
              Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 17:40 +0100
                Re: Telnet Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-12-04 17:50 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 18:00 +0100
                Re: Telnet <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 18:40 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 20:10 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 20:30 +0100
                Re: Telnet <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-05 06:10 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-05 08:50 +0100
                Re: Telnet tomas@tuxteam.de - 2023-12-04 20:30 +0100
          Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 09:30 +0100
            Re: Telnet Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 17:20 +0100
            Look, ma no telnet [was: Telnet] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 20:00 +0100
              Re: Look, ma no telnet [was: Telnet] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 20:10 +0100
              Re: Look, ma no telnet [was: Telnet] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 20:10 +0100

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