Re: Telnet

From	Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Telnet
Date	2023-12-03 20:10 +0100
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On Sun, Dec 03, 2023 at 11:52:51AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 17:00:44 +0100
> Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > How do you find 1994? It seems to be a mail from yesterday:  
> > 
> > For me it sounded like a joke.
> > 
> > Telnet is unencrypted (although it is possible to run it over TLS to
> > encrypt it) and SSH exists more than 20 years.
> 
> True. None the less, there is at least one perfectly good use for
> telnet: testing connections to servers.
> 
> charles@hawk:~$ telnet hawk
> Trying 127.0.1.1...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> charles@hawk:~$ telnet hawk 80
> Trying 127.0.1.1...
> Connected to hawk.localdomain.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> ^]
> telnet> quit
> Connection closed.
> charles@hawk:~$ 

Yes, there is plenty of use for the telnet *client*.  Nobody disputes this.

The question is whether anyone should be running a telnetd *server*.
On an isolated network, it might be acceptable.  But it's really a bad
habit that should be stomped out aggressively, as machines which are
currently on an isolated network might not remain there forever.

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Telnet William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-12-02 17:00 +0100
  Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-02 17:10 +0100
    Re: Telnet Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-02 17:20 +0100
    Re: Telnet William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-12-02 17:40 +0100
  Re: Telnet Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-02 23:00 +0100
    Re: Telnet Michel Verdier <mv524@free.fr> - 2023-12-03 12:10 +0100
      Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-03 17:10 +0100
        Re: Telnet Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-12-03 20:00 +0100
          Re: Telnet Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-03 20:10 +0100
            Re: Telnet Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-12-03 20:30 +0100
              Re: Telnet debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-12-03 21:30 +0100
                Re: Telnet Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2023-12-04 11:30 +0100
                Re: Telnet gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-04 12:40 +0100
                Re: Telnet debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-12-04 17:20 +0100
                Re: Telnet Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2023-12-05 11:20 +0100
            Re: Telnet Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2023-12-04 11:40 +0100
              Re: Firefox, was: Telnet Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-04 13:10 +0100
                Re: Firefox, was: Telnet Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2023-12-04 15:30 +0100
          Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 09:30 +0100
            Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-04 17:30 +0100
              Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 17:40 +0100
          Re: Telnet Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-04 09:30 +0100
            Re: Telnet Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-12-04 17:30 +0100
              Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 17:40 +0100
                Re: Telnet Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-12-04 17:50 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 18:00 +0100
                Re: Telnet <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 18:40 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 20:10 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 20:30 +0100
                Re: Telnet <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-05 06:10 +0100
                Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-05 08:50 +0100
                Re: Telnet tomas@tuxteam.de - 2023-12-04 20:30 +0100
          Re: Telnet Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 09:30 +0100
            Re: Telnet Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 17:20 +0100
            Look, ma no telnet [was: Telnet] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 20:00 +0100
              Re: Look, ma no telnet [was: Telnet] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 20:10 +0100
              Re: Look, ma no telnet [was: Telnet] Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-04 20:10 +0100

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