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Re: time question, as in ntp?

From Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: time question, as in ntp?
Date 2023-11-30 11:50 +0100
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On Nov 30, 2023, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 30/11/2023 05:53, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Avahi BS?  APIPA ("A"utomatic "P"rivate "IP" "A"ddressing) is not
> > avahi/mDNS (aka Bonjour / Zeroconf).
> > 
> > Your DHCP client giving you an APIPA address is indicative of broken
> > DHCP, and the fix is either:
> 
> avahi-daemon (multicast name resolution and service discovery) and
> avahi-autoipd (link-local IP addresses) debian packages are built from the
> same "avahi" upstream project despite their purpose is different (and
> related).
> 
> There are alternatives that may play the same roles (assigning 169.254.x.y
> IPv4LL addresses and sending/responding to mDNS queries): udhcp,
> systemd-networkd. I am unsure however if all CUPS features are available
> without avahi.

APIPA (or I guess more appropriately now -- IPv4LL) addresses are a
timeout failure mode of the DHCP client (IIRC the default Debian client
is / was isc-dhcp-client).  At least that's what's running here (box
pulled forward from a netinst of Jessie or Sarge), and _without_
avahi-autoipd I can get those if DHCP falls over (least ISTR getting it,
maybe I never did :/ )

> 
> With proper network configuration (static IP addresses as first step) avahi
> may be ignored in this case. Currently avahi-autoipd (or another tool)
> successfully manged to make it possible to connect at least local network.
> Since static IPs are used in the local network, manual configuration is
> required to make global connections available.
> 

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time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-29 19:00 +0100
  Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-11-29 19:20 +0100
    Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-29 19:40 +0100
  Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-29 19:20 +0100
    Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-29 20:10 +0100
      Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-29 20:20 +0100
        Re: time question, as in ntp? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-11-30 01:30 +0100
      Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-29 22:00 +0100
        Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-30 00:00 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 01:40 +0100
            Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-30 11:40 +0100
              Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 11:50 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-30 03:50 +0100
            Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-30 11:50 +0100
  Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-11-29 19:30 +0100
    Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-29 20:00 +0100
      Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-29 20:30 +0100
        Re: time question, as in ntp? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-11-29 21:00 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 01:10 +0100
        Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 01:00 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-11-30 02:30 +0100
            Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 03:00 +0100
              Re: time question, as in ntp? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-11-30 03:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 05:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-11-30 05:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 10:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2023-11-30 05:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> - 2023-11-30 05:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-30 11:50 +0100
              Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-11-30 11:50 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-30 03:40 +0100
            Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 05:10 +0100
              Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-30 06:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 10:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-30 13:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 11:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-30 13:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-30 14:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 20:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 19:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-01 03:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 04:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-01 05:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 11:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2023-12-01 18:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-01 19:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-01 20:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-01 05:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 11:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-12-01 12:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-01 16:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 20:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-01 20:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 23:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-01 23:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-02 12:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-02 08:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-01 08:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-01 19:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 22:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-02 03:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-02 11:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-11-30 15:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-30 20:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-30 20:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-11-30 21:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-11-30 21:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 03:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-01 04:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 04:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-01 05:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-12-01 06:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-12-01 11:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 12:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-12-01 12:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-01 14:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-12-01 15:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 19:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 14:30 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-12-01 14:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 19:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-01 04:20 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-11-30 15:20 +0100
      Re: time question, as in ntp? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-11-30 17:20 +0100
        Re: time question, as in ntp? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-30 19:10 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-01 02:40 +0100
        Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-01 17:30 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-01 21:50 +0100
          Re: time question, as in ntp? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-12-02 00:10 +0100
            Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-02 17:40 +0100
              Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 04:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-04 05:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-12-04 11:10 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-04 10:50 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-12-04 15:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-04 15:40 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-04 16:00 +0100
                Re: time question, as in ntp? Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2023-12-05 09:40 +0100
  Re: time question, as in ntp? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-11-29 20:20 +0100
    Re: time question, as in ntp? gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-29 22:20 +0100

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