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Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

From Bret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail
Date 2023-08-15 21:20 +0200
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On 16/8/23 00:43, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> 
> 
> I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints, but the GUI 
> has been slowly been changed.
> lately I have been struggling with that, trying to get it to be My Way. 
> Minor success.
> 
> also the .msf files have gotten Huge and that hinders rapid and easy 
> backups.
> 
> In the process I would like to do some housekeeping, fix a few filters 
> and rearrange my copious folders.
> 
> Question: do you folks recommend migrating to Claws Mail?
> the initial look and feel seems to be familiar and comfortable, but I 
> know little of the history and stability.
> 
> secondly, will I be missing the basic features such as Filters?
> 
> thanks in advance.
> 

I use both email applications, separately for different email accounts.

I use claws mail for a minor email account, in which I may get one or 
two (or, if spammed, more) messages, each month.

I use Thunderbird for my primary email account, which can get many (a 
hundred, or, hundreds, depending on what is happening)messages, each day.

My use of Thunderbird, is basically as a webmail kind of application, 
over which, I have more control, than over something like horde or 
roundcube (that has been imposed to replace horde). At the end of each 
month (or, more frequently, depending on the number of messages left 
after preliminary sifting out of chaff), I download my incoming email, 
using the most powerful email application that I have encountered, 
alpine, that was evolved from pine. All my download email filtering, is 
done using alpine, with hundreds of filters, each with up to a couple of 
hundred different field values. I have several hundred or more, folders, 
for storing my downloaded messages, with some folders being archived on 
a monthly basis, depending on the usual volume of messages in each 
folder. My mail folder (the mail messages folder for alpine), is 
somewhere around 20GB, and contains messages up to about 20 years old.

Claws mail has an official users mailing list, which, I believe, is 
hosted and administered by the application developer, who also answers 
queries on the list.

Thunderbird email has no official users mailing list, but has two 
unofficial users mailing lists, hosted on groups.io, with a different 
priority for each mailing list, and, each of those lists, is run by 
volunteers, with no support on those lists, from Thunderbird or its 
developers. Thunderbird developers, and, the Thunderbird organisation, 
have yet to adapt to using email (it is a bit like the oxymoron 
"military intelligence", as referenced by the character played by Danny 
de Vito in the movie of that name - Thunderbird developers and the 
Thunderbird organisation, have so little regard for email, that they do 
not provide official users mailing lists, for announcements, providing 
support, etc - some of the operating systems, on which email 
applications run, such as Debian, and Ubuntu, are far more adept at 
using email - the Thunderbird organisation, has yet to come to terms 
with the use of email).

Oh, and, alpine has an official mailing list, involving the developer of 
alpine, who also provides answers to queries (and, considers development 
suggestions) made on that list.

So, the Thunderbird organisation is a bit backward...

..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2023-08-15 19:10 +0200
  Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Marco <mo01@posteo.de> - 2023-08-15 19:20 +0200
  Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-08-15 20:40 +0200
  Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-15 21:20 +0200
    Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2023-08-15 21:50 +0200
      Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-15 23:30 +0200
      Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Frank Lanitz <frank@frank.uvena.de> - 2023-08-29 20:30 +0200
    Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2023-08-19 16:10 +0200
      Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2023-08-19 16:30 +0200
  Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 04:30 +0200
    Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2023-08-19 16:20 +0200
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    Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail peter ehlert <sdibaja@gmail.com> - 2023-11-18 18:30 +0100
      Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail peter ehlert <sdibaja@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 16:00 +0100
    Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Alex <alex@blueselene.com> - 2023-11-18 19:10 +0100
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        Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 02:30 +0100
    Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-11-18 20:30 +0100
      Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-11-18 22:30 +0100
        Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-11-19 13:10 +0100
      Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2023-11-19 05:40 +0100
        Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-19 06:50 +0100
      Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-11-19 13:00 +0100
        Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-11-19 17:20 +0100
    Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2023-11-19 17:00 +0100
      Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2023-11-19 19:00 +0100
    Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-11-21 04:50 +0100

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