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Re: should CLI have a nice UI today?

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On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 09:51:13AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I think you are being too harsh here. Such a question may come
> > genuinely from someone who hasn't experienced the power of the
> > CLI, which, once you've taken the firs step gently takes you
> > to small one-liners, little loops and bigger and bigger programs.
> >
> > It has this seamless "growth path" which helps and entices
> > its users to get better, something I miss from most GUIs, which
> > rather tend to degrade the user to a click machine. I don't
> > know whether this is inherent to GUIs or just the current
> > "social convention" underlying actual GUIs.
> 
> I think it's the same underlying reasons why programming languages are
> almost universally represented as text: maybe it's just because of habit
> or "social convention", but I think there's something more fundamental
> at play, which make it very hard to make non-textual programming
> languages (and maybe even formal systems in general).

Perhaps roughly 3k to 4k years of storing, transmitting and retrieving
information in written form have a part in it.

It may be a social convention, but by now it runs so deep that I'm
convinced you'll find epigenetic traces of it in us humans.

Cheers
-- 
t

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should CLI have a nice UI today? coreyh@free.fr - 2023-03-24 12:40 +0100
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2023-03-24 12:50 +0100
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-03-24 13:00 +0100
    Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Tom <tom@virta.be> - 2023-03-24 17:00 +0100
      Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Javier Barroso <javibarroso@gmail.com> - 2023-03-25 23:40 +0100
    Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Tom <tom@virta.be> - 2023-03-24 17:10 +0100
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2023-03-24 16:20 +0100
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-24 21:40 +0100
    Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2023-03-25 00:20 +0100
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-03-24 22:30 +0100
    Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-03-24 22:50 +0100
    Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-25 07:40 +0100
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-25 11:10 +0100
    Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-03-29 16:00 +0200
      Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-03-29 16:10 +0200
        Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-03-29 16:30 +0200
          Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2023-03-29 16:50 +0200
            Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-03-29 17:10 +0200
          Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-03-30 13:10 +0200
        Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-03-29 16:50 +0200
          Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-03-29 17:20 +0200
            Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-03-30 16:50 +0200
              Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-03-30 17:40 +0200
              Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-03-31 03:50 +0200
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> - 2023-03-30 07:50 +0200
  Re: should CLI have a nice UI today? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-03-30 09:30 +0200

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