Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s...

From	ANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
Subject	Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s...
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Date	2016-01-02 23:22 -0600

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In comp.os.linux.hardware J G Miller <miller@yoyo.org> wrote:
> On Saturday, January 3rd, 2016, at 18:38:36h -0600, Ant asked:

> > Is there a GUI version of it?

> No.

> Do you remember DOS?  And command like

>        copy file A:

>        rename A:file1 A:file2

> etc?

Barely. ;)


> Well mtools are a set of command line tools
> to look and feel just like those old DOS commands
> you used to love using, except they are named with
> an m in front eg

>     mcopy
>     mlabel
>     mren  (as in rename)
>     mtype

> etc

> mtools -- Supported commands:
> mattrib, mbadblocks, mcat, mcd, mclasserase, mcopy, mdel, mdeltree
> mdir, mdoctorfat, mdu, mformat, minfo, mlabel, mmd, mmount
> mpartition, mrd, mread, mmove, mren, mshowfat, mshortname, mtoolstest
> mtype, mwrite, mzip


> Apparently, if you have mtools installed, you can use Konqueror and even
> Dolphin to work with DOS filesystems via mtools
> (provided that the filesystems they are not mounted)

>            <https://forum.kde.ORG/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=127786>

Hmm. I tried "floppy:a/" on KDE's Dolphin's URL, but got: "Could not 
access floppy:a. Make sure the floppy in drive a: is a DOS-formatted 
floppy disk and that the permissions of the device file (e.g. /dev/fd0) 
are set correctly (e.g. rwxrwxrwx)."

$ ls -all /dev/fd0
brw-rw---- 1 root disk 2, 0 Dec 30 12:13 /dev/fd0

So, I did a "chmod 777" on it and retried. Nope!

$ ls -all /media/
total 31
drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 4096 Dec 31 17:21 .
drwxr-xr-x  27 root root 4096 Dec 28 07:22 ..
drwxr-x---+  4 root root 4096 Dec 30 12:15 ant
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 Nov 24  2011 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 Nov 24  2011 cdrom0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    7 Nov 24  2011 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 7168 Dec 31  1969 floppy0
-rw-r--r--   1 root root    0 Jul  5  2013 .hal-mtab
drwx------   2 root root 4096 Dec 20 16:53 Storage2a
drwx------   2 root root 4096 Dec 20 16:53 Storage2b

Just for kicks, I tried chmod 777 on floppy0 to retry. Same results. 
Argh.

$ stat /dev/fd0
  File: ???/dev/fd0???
  Size: 0               Blocks: 0          IO Block: 4096   block 
special file
Device: 5h/5d   Inode: 1162        Links: 1     Device type: 2,0
Access: (0777/brwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    6/    disk)
Access: 2016-01-02 20:52:46.225355386 -0800
Modify: 2015-12-30 12:13:56.051944170 -0800
Change: 2016-01-02 20:52:14.441995092 -0800
 Birth: -

$ stat /media/floppy
  File: ???/media/floppy??? -> ???floppy0???
  Size: 7               Blocks: 0          IO Block: 4096   symbolic 
link
Device: 801h/2049d      Inode: 18          Links: 1
Access: (0777/lrwxrwxrwx)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2016-01-02 20:54:03.355804250 -0800
Modify: 2011-11-24 15:26:10.353999875 -0800
Change: 2011-11-24 15:26:10.353999875 -0800
 Birth: -

$ stat /media/floppy0
  File: ???/media/floppy0???
  Size: 7168            Blocks: 14         IO Block: 512    directory
Device: 200h/512d       Inode: 1           Links: 2
Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 1969-12-31 16:00:00.000000000 -0800
Modify: 1969-12-31 16:00:00.000000000 -0800
Change: 1969-12-31 16:00:00.000000000 -0800
 Birth: -


But wait. "mdir a:" worked! Then, I tried kfloppy and it was able to do 
a quick format on it with FAT! :O 

It looks like I cannot mount floppy drives to use mtools and stuff. 
Write worked too. Um, but I wanted to use KDE and other GUI file 
managers to access the stuff. :(

mtoolsFM doesn't exist too in Debian's official servers?
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Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-29 01:54 -0600
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-12-29 09:36 +0100
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-29 13:45 -0600
      Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-12-29 19:50 +0000
        Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-29 13:53 -0600
          Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-12-29 13:47 -0800
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Mark Carroll <mtbc@ixod.org> - 2015-12-29 22:00 +0000
              Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-12-29 14:36 -0800
              Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-30 05:03 -0600
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-12-29 14:39 -0800
              Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-31 03:19 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2016-01-01 01:14 +0000
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-01-01 15:19 +0000
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2016-01-02 04:04 +0000
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-12-29 10:46 +0200
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-12-29 10:37 +0100
      Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-29 13:50 -0600
        Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-12-29 22:13 +0000
          Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-30 00:36 +0000
          Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-01-11 06:55 -0600
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-11 13:02 +0000
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2016-01-16 19:13 -0800
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-29 13:46 -0600
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Alastair Black <abqab.nemo@example.net> - 2015-12-29 09:38 -0700
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-29 14:44 -0600
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 15:28 -0600
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-30 05:05 -0600
      Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2015-12-31 08:57 -0600
        Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-31 16:32 -0600
          Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2015-12-31 20:01 -0600
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2015-12-31 20:13 -0600
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-12-31 23:08 -0600
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-01 09:26 +0000
              Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-01-01 11:29 +0100
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-29 19:29 -0500
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-12-30 10:03 +0100
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... "Ralf S. Hellersen" <schneiderxr@arcor.de> - 2016-01-01 17:31 +0000
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-01 12:58 -0600
      Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-01-01 11:37 -0800
      Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... "Ralf S. Hellersen" <schneiderxr@arcor.de> - 2016-01-02 18:51 +0000
        Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-02 18:38 -0600
          Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-01-03 02:17 +0000
            Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-02 23:22 -0600
              Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-02 23:41 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-03 12:17 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Alastair Black <abqab.nemo@example.net> - 2016-01-03 12:02 -0700
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:07 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-03 19:01 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 00:20 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-04 04:24 -0600
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2016-01-04 09:16 -0800
                Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Mark Carroll <mtbc@ixod.org> - 2016-01-04 17:30 +0000
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-01 14:47 -0600
    Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2016-01-02 20:29 -0600
      Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-01-04 04:57 -0600
        Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> - 2016-01-04 21:26 -0600
  Re: Writing to old school 3.5" floppy disk(ette)s... Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2016-02-05 03:19 +0000

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